New Member - Unmolested 1972 CT70 K1?

Bluebrick

New Member
New member here. Stumbled across what I believe is an original unmolested 1972 (?) CT70 at an estate sale. I own Honda Ruckus and Metropolitan scooters but have only admired CT70s around town. Shows 1500 miles. Best I can tell it is complete, except for the tool kit. Frame Vin and motor serial numbers are within 300 of one another. Original tires. Has a pre-delivery service sticker from a local Honda shop dated September 1971. I have included a few photos and would welcome members input on the originality of the bike. My intent right now is to get it running and enjoy it. Photos show just the first layer of gunk washed off.....still a lot more cleaning left to do.

I would also be interested to chat with other Washington members regarding registering the bike in WA. I don’t think it was ever issued a WA title. I have read the Title and Registration thread and learned a ton but still have a few additional questions…..

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Tripod

Well-Known Member
Looks like you have a Candy Ruby Red K0. Google CT70 identification.

As for the title issue in washington, search for the thread on getting registration through Vermont.

Once you get Vermont squared away, you can transfer the registration to WA and get a title. I think I paid about $150 for permanent registration.
 

Bluebrick

New Member
Thanks Tripod. It has a 6 digit Vin# that is over 200,000 so I guess it is indeed a K0 - 1971 if I am reading the identification info correctly. Thanks also for the Vermont registration information.
 

69ST

Well-Known Member
K0 VINs are six digit. Aside from that, this bike is clearly a K0: front end, HL, seat, decals, tail light, exhaust are all K0. And the bike does appear to be unmolested. Welcome aboard!
 

Bluebrick

New Member
Thanks racerx for confirming everything on the bike was correct. It looked unmolested to me. And glad to confirm it is a K0 too! Now the hard work starts to bring it back to life...
 

69ST

Well-Known Member
I think you mean the fun part ;) IMHO there is something very satisfying about bringing one of these little machines back to its former glory. If that's the true, original, mileage, this ought to turn out very well, mechanically, with minimal replacement parts.

Going by your pix, it looks like it's due for new tires, tubes, fork boots (though I'd throw new brake shoes and possibly bearings at it) and some cosmetic work. Just refinishing the "cloud silver" parts (wheels, hubs, engine covers) and some elbow grease will make a huge difference, for not a lot of bucks.
 

kirrbby

Well-Known Member
That looks like a excellent bike Bluebrick. That's just the way you like to find them here in 2017. Unmolested, is rare. It allows you to take a few things for granted. And...your paint looks pretty nice and bright. Just a good cleanup will have that bike looking good. A little cloud silver, as racerx said, and it'll look great.
You're gonna be wanting another one by springtime :--)
Welcome to lilHonda.
 

Bluebrick

New Member
Thank you racerx and kirrbby for your ideas and comments. I agree it will be more fun than work for sure. :sneaky: I don't think I would have taken the plunge if the bike was not (at least to my untrained eye) unmolested and complete. But life is short and minibikes are fun, right?! In addition to tires, tubes, and fork boots my short list of parts includes the following: new headlight bucket (the original is broken), new headlight and horn switches (both broken), new carb or carb rebuild kit along with new fuel lines and spark plug, air filter, kick start rubber(missing), closed cell battery and a new modern rectifier. The brake shoes and bearings are a good idea and are now on the list. Also on my list was a new chain and possibly new sprockets. Am I missing any other maintenance or wear-and-tear items that fail on these bikes?

Kirrbby- you are right the paint is bright with just a quick soapy wash-- so I think it will look great with a deep cleaning and a waxing. Pretty sure the bike was in an unheated garage here in Seattle for 30+ years, so the saltwater air has created some chrome pitting but no rust on the bike itself and no paint fading.
 

69ST

Well-Known Member
You are definitely heading in the right direction. Do yourself a favor and source a true roller chain, rather than another cheapie. The extra bucks, up front, will more than pay you back...in increased chain & sprocket life. BTW, automotive "cleaner" paste wax and elbow grease can do wonders for vintage lacquer, without removing much paint, or leaving swirl marks. These were sprayed with two-stage lacquer, no clear coat. If the paint gets thin, the color develops a light spot.

Take a look at the headpipe, where the front of the main heat shield attaches. These things are notorious for rusting beneath the fiber packing.

If the carburetor is reasonably clean internally and the slide moves freely, odds of a successful rebuild are high.

Learn how to service the oil spinner. You'll need to pull the clutch cover and throwout bearing flange (which doubles as the oil spinner cover) for cleaning. That will be an ideal time to clean any sludge from the bottom of the crankcase. Source a hammer-powered impact driver and JIS (looks like philips) driver bits. Case screws are available new, so if you think that the originals look a bit weary next to that fresh cloud silver paint, half of them will be removed while refinishing the clutch & flywheel covers. A set of flat allen screws, for the oil spinner, will make future cleanings a lot easier.
 

loopiemclooperson

Active Member
I have had luck registering bikes with the ownership in doubt process in washington. First thing to do is send in a vehicle record request to the state. Depending who you get at the dol, they may have you get a state patrol inspection, and a certified vehicle weight slip. Nice thing is you can get a collector plate and start riding. Bad part is it takes 3 years to get the actual title.
 

Bluebrick

New Member
Thanks Racerx and Loopiemclooperson on your additional comments. I am still working on the list of restoration items to purchase in my process to revive the bike. On registering in WA, I am still debating about going through Vermont or just going through Washington- and waiting the obligatory 3 years to get an actual title. Either way, I will get a collector plate on the bike - I have done that on all my vintage cars and it is an easy decision with the cost of WA tabs going up every year.
 
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