FOR SALE 1970 CT70 - Fully Restored & done right. $7,500.00 OBO.

Kevin QQ

New Member
Restoration was done less than five years ago and this bike has not seen rain, mud, bad weather or any abuse. Pretty much an indoor cat. Professionally built, restored and maintained to an A+ level.
All chrome has been done, engine, carb & trans rebuilt, new tires and tubes, Paint professionally done. Nothing was spared in the building of the bike. Bike is located in northern New Jersey. Only missing item is a tool kit which will be purchased and sold with the bike.
Seller can be reached via LILHONDA thread, PM, text or call.
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OLD CT

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Done right is a subjective word. Done right means not spray painting the kickstand bolt and spring black. Also simple things like installing the shock correctly even if they are cheap aftermarket items. Backwards. Too many non Honda hardware store bolts. Non Honda aftermarket head and cylinder. The price is way off to informed seasoned members.
You need stick around and learn more about what is correct.
 

JHminitrails

Active Member
Done right is a subjective word. Done right means not spray painting the kickstand bolt and spring black. Also simple things like installing the shock correctly even if they are cheap aftermarket items. Backwards. Too many non Honda hardware store bolts. Non Honda aftermarket head and cylinder. The price is way off to informed seasoned members.
You need stick around and learn more about what is correct.
I have to agree here. Not to bash a guys hard work, but there are lots of incorrect and missed details that make this bike far from period correct restoration. It presents very well to an untrained eye, but a purists view on this bike, it has missed the mark by quite a bit. $7500 USD is VERY strong money for this bike in my opinion! I have been slowly making NOS parts purchases for my K1 for years now, and I know how hard and expensive it is to do a very nice restoration. There are so many little details that can separate a very correct bike from a "correct appearing" bike. I'm not a "super purist" with all my CT's, but my red K1 is very sentimental to me, and its been my goal to give it the best restoration I can just because it deserves that kind of treatment to me. And it is STILL far from perfect, I won't deny that for one second. But I wouldn't be afraid to show it to a hardcore purist. All that said, I think I would even have an extremely difficult time fetching $7500 for it in todays post Covid market. Would I accept $7500 for it.....not a chance! And I wouldn't even consider 4 times that just because of my history with it.

The point is, with the amount of repopped parts out there now, and there are some REALLY GOOD reproduction parts and some REALLY POOR parts available to us now, it makes it easy for people to restore a bike that looks great and even run great, but it doesn't make it worth top quality concours prices! I've seen sooo many incorrect and questionable CT's sold at Barrett-Jackson and privately over the years and it is scary what some buyers are willing to pay for them!! The correct information is out there, you just have to put in the time to educate yourself and learn how to filter the facts from the bullsheesh, and ask questions if you're unsure. Never rely on an unknown seller to be 100% truthful with their disclosure when they have one thing on their mind.....money!!

Here are pics of just a few of the correct details to look for when a seller throws around the term "NOS" or "Original" parts used. These are pics of my bike, not pirated from google university. And yes, the NOS skidplate cost me more than I care to admit! Lol
 

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Kevin QQ

New Member
Bike looks nice, but I think your audience here does not support that price point.
Truth of the matter is that the bike is only worth quart someone is willing to pay for it. Hence the trailer of OBO.
Your opinion is greatly appreciated.
 

Kevin QQ

New Member
Done right is a subjective word. Done right means not spray painting the kickstand bolt and spring black. Also simple things like installing the shock correctly even if they are cheap aftermarket items. Backwards. Too many non Honda hardware store bolts. Non Honda aftermarket head and cylinder. The price is way off to informed seasoned members.
You need stick around and learn more about what is correct.
Thanks for your input. Obviously a CT veteran.
I, like most of the people on this forum, grew up with these machines. I rode mine into the ground.
As for being 100% “correct” and “done right” are definitely subjective.
I didn’t say in the listing that the machine was 100% correct or NOS parts used only.
I built the machine to be a very good, reliable bike.
Not sure what you may or may not know about cars (my stock in trade is restoration of classic cars. Mostly Vintage Mercedes.)
Are you familiar with NCRS? It’s the National Corvette Restorers Society.
Great bunch of guys who can tell you the name, age, height, weight, marital status, number of children, religious affiliations, favorite libation and burial site of the guy who installed transmissions on 1958 Corvettes at the Saint Louis production plant, when he was hired and if he was left or right handed, and what color grease marker he favored.
TMI !!!
NCRS will knock points off a judging ballot if the tire treads depth is inconsistent with the mileage showing on the odometer. No BS.
I don’t build based on such rediculous criteria.
Nobody would be willing to ride a bike built to such unrealistic and unattainable standards. And the cost of that is far beyond what the machine is actually worth.
I didn’t build a Pit-Bike nor did I build a Trailer Queen. I built an enjoyable, very well restored memory of my childhood that I wouldn’t hesitate to take for a few spins around the fields I rode on “back in the day”.
So with all due respect I don’t give a F’s F if there is black over spray on a kickstand spring. Build ‘em, ride ‘em smoke a bone and enjoy ‘em.
 

Kevin QQ

New Member
I have to agree here. Not to bash a guys hard work, but there are lots of incorrect and missed details that make this bike far from period correct restoration. It presents very well to an untrained eye, but a purists view on this bike, it has missed the mark by quite a bit. $7500 USD is VERY strong money for this bike in my opinion! I have been slowly making NOS parts purchases for my K1 for years now, and I know how hard and expensive it is to do a very nice restoration. There are so many little details that can separate a very correct bike from a "correct appearing" bike. I'm not a "super purist" with all my CT's, but my red K1 is very sentimental to me, and its been my goal to give it the best restoration I can just because it deserves that kind of treatment to me. And it is STILL far from perfect, I won't deny that for one second. But I wouldn't be afraid to show it to a hardcore purist. All that said, I think I would even have an extremely difficult time fetching $7500 for it in todays post Covid market. Would I accept $7500 for it.....not a chance! And I wouldn't even consider 4 times that just because of my history with it.

The point is, with the amount of repopped parts out there now, and there are some REALLY GOOD reproduction parts and some REALLY POOR parts available to us now, it makes it easy for people to restore a bike that looks great and even run great, but it doesn't make it worth top quality concours prices! I've seen sooo many incorrect and questionable CT's sold at Barrett-Jackson and privately over the years and it is scary what some buyers are willing to pay for them!! The correct information is out there, you just have to put in the time to educate yourself and learn how to filter the facts from the bullsheesh, and ask questions if you're unsure. Never rely on an unknown seller to be 100% truthful with their disclosure when they have one thing on their mind.....money!!

Here are pics of just a few of the correct details to look for when a seller throws around the term "NOS" or "Original" parts used. These are pics of my bike, not pirated from google university. And yes, the NOS skidplate cost me more than I care to admit! Lol
You make my point extremely well. You built (building) it for yourself.
But will you take it out on any of the trails you ride as a kid?
After that investment I gather not. And THAT is perfectly okay and admirable.
You’ve got into it more than my ask of $7,500.00.
I built for myself a 1970 Corvette Roadster. Pics attached.
The car is worth maybe $50k.
But … …, I’m into it for well over $90k.
Stupid money!
If somebody wants to buy it I have EVERYTHING I swapped out to build what I wanted. Right down to the matching numbers engine and tranny.
See my response to Old CT.
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JHminitrails

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You make my point extremely well. You built (building) it for yourself.
But will you take it out on any of the trails you ride as a kid?
After that investment I gather not. And THAT is perfectly okay and admirable.
You’ve got into it more than my ask of $7,500.00.
This particular bike will never see dirt. It has been in my family since brand new and it's now a conversation piece and for viewing pleasure only. Lol. I have another bike that is going to be my "rider".

They usually isn't much profit in restoring a car or bike, especially when you go all the way with it. Unless you are donated all the parts and the vehicle and do all the work yourself. Haha. You're better off buying one already done and making it your own from there. But on the other hand there is something to be said about taking pride in building one yourself too, but don't expect to turn much of a profit should you decide to sell it. Like your corvette, you've got way more invested than what the 2nd hand market value is. I hope you sell your bike but I think the general consensus here is that you may have to settle for alot less than expected. Sure it would be nice to get $7500, but as mentioned above, this may not be the right crowd willing to pay that.
 

Kevin QQ

New Member
I built my 'vette with the intention of only doing a top end rebuild. After I powder coated the frame for the second time, I knew I was in serious trouble.
However the window you see in that car is my patented hood window that started my business. So the dividends the car has paid have made my investment in it worthwhile.
The peaks and valleys in the minibike market, particularly those around the 50 & 70 models, is astonishing. I've seen nice, but questionable bikes for for $12k to $3k.
For an interesting auction you need only two people.
So build your factory correct CT, park it in the living room, enjoy it and tell your kids that you spent some of their inheritance money.
It's been my pleasure to swap some history with you.
Below is my CT on the front of my Dad's 1969 Condor Motorhome. We drove the "Bus" all over the east coast. So much fun!
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