21hp CT with GOBS of chrome...

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  1. johnmacd

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    Found this on YouTube this morning..thought it was kinda cool.
    YouTube - Honda Dax 180 Super (21.3bhp)

    Some really nice details like how the owner cut the rear case that covers the drive sprocket/chain & is now using the original chain guard....LOTS of chrome too...
     
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  3. Darthvader

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    Pretty kool stuff right there. thanks for sharing.
     
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    That one's been circulating for a while now. Great "concept bike" to demonstrate what's possible with available parts & tech. The motor is over-the-top, a 61mm bore is beyond what the basic architecture of the Honda Nice can accomodate (welded-up cases:eek:) and light-years away from a proven setup. 20-26hp is possible with 160-175cc; 160 & smaller is well-proven over the past six seasons. It is a good example of a big-budget machine and any component used on it could be sourced and installed on another CT70. Suspension & brake improvements make a huge difference in how the bike feels and a Nice engine, even in stock tune, is worthy of its name. There's a lot of fine componentry available for these little bikes, enough to transform them into serious road machines or add as much bling as you can stand. One could surpass the capabilities of this black & chrome bike, it's been done. With dedication, planning and budget, it's possible to transform these little bikes into "no excuses" gems, small only in the amount of physical space they occupy.
     
  5. MSZ

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    The Nice 177's aren't holding up long term. As Racer X will tell you, the best Honda Nice combo is around 146cc's and it's got more power then most can handle in these types of chassis..
     
  6. Darthvader

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    Anyone have a KOOL custom for sale?
     
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    I will here in about 6 weeks. However, I would strongly encourage you to build your own. It's more fun and you can spec the bike exactly as you want it down to the tires. It will just take some time and your labor.

    Look through the custom galleries...

    Custom Monkeybikes From Around the World

    CT, Z50, ZB50 base, the options are nearly endless.
     
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    I hear you...pretty cool stuff on that site.
     
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    It's the vast range of possibilities that makes things interesting. Unlike a concours restoration, customs & restmods are never really finished. The discovery process continues even after the bike is "completed"... a huge topic for discussion all by itself. For the moment, suffice it to say that there are a number of counterintuitive aspects, the "80/20" applies and there's almost no black-and-white clarity to any of it. Precisely what constitutes a "right answer" is up to you.

    Buying someone else's turnkey custom bike is one of those gray areas... instant gratification, especially if it happens to be exactly what you want. Usually, such bikes sell at a loss and you could always sell unwanted pieces, reducing the net cost of acquisition even further below what you'd spend to build from scratch. On the other hand, beginning at the end will probably limit your creative vision as compared with the longer & more involved process of jumping into the deep end and beginning with a clean sheet.

    The number one reason for using a Nice engine is that it's the strongest motor going, they don't break. Up to 160cc has proved reliable over the past 6 years, remarkable for a 110 base engine. In my view, 175 is over-the-top and this particular 181 is two orders of magnitude beyond that - defeating the whole purpose for sourcing one of these motors. 85-ish top speeds can be done reliably, a stocker will get close to 65 and run virtually forever. You pays your money and takes your pick...
     

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