Bandit Bill's ongoing '82 C70 Evolution ..

[Bandit Bill]

Well looky looky what i got here for $20.00 at Princess Auto (equivelant of Pep-Boys in USA i think) ..




Spent an hour this morning looking online for a link to a commercially available tire hugger for the CT70 - all i could find was vague references to one available for the ZB50. If anyone knows of one, shoot me a link please.

Otherwise, I picked this ABS trailer fender up from Princess Auto. Width wise, dimensionally, it's perfect. 7" across. Curvature is also within acceptable parameters. It will require extremely careful cutting down, trimming and profiling before it'll even be considered workeable, but i'm thinking i've got about a 50% chance of coming up with something workeable and presentable for a tire hugger with fabricated bracketry, in lieu of the stock fender setup for the CT70.

All dependant on whether i can paint it with an ABS friendly paint. I'm not going to use it if at first flex, it sheds the coat of paint.

Yes. Obviously that's me in the reflection, trying to keep my feet out of the photos

 

[Bandit Bill]

Step by step, it gets closer.

All the major bits ordered from Trail Buddy have either been installed or mock-installed.

Front end is the 30mm front fork kit with disc front end. I need to order a longer stainless steel brake line to complete this installation.

Handlebars are the 'bigger sized' type from Trail Buddy.

I've sorted out the rear swingarm/hub spacing problem, and everything now looks good there. I've still got to get my head around whether to use a shimmed stock rear fender, or to finish off a trailer fender turned rear tire hugger for it.

Obviously things are going slowly for this project - unfortunately, i've fallen ill again, so it gets worked on when i've got the energy to spare.. very little to spare right now.

I placed the 2nd parts order yesterday, this time with DrATV. Most of the parts have been ordered for the C70 Passport stepthrough, but there are a few key pieces for this CT70 in this parts order, to move the progress along further.

 

[Motorhead]

B.B., you can get a flex additive through your local paint store that will forgive a fair amount of flexing and twisting of the plastic. It would be wise to use a plastic adhesion promoter under the paint as well. Those steps are usually incorporated into painting flexible bumpers in automotive body shops.

 

[theraymondguy]

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401 PARKDALE AVE N
HAMILTON, ON L8H 5Y4
(905) 545-1153
Fax905) 545-0922

I'm either dead bang on the money or out in left field here, but I believe this location will mix custom colours in a spray bomb for you.

Hope you're feeling better soon.

 

[Bandit Bill]

What i'd really like to get my grubby little mitts on, is this, for the rear fender issue, as shown on the skyteam website:

SKY TEAM CORPORATION LTD

Rear tire hugger on a ZB50 clone.

Hmm, wonder if trailbuddy could get some - they do market some of the common skyteam parts.

I'm starting to get a little cold on the rear tire hugger out of a trailer fender idea - it's working ok, but..

 

[theraymondguy]

You've been hanging out with Tmas at PM.

 

[Bandit Bill]

It's been some while since i posted an update to my build thread - it is still going on, but glacially slow. No photos this round, but incoming soon.

In the end, i elected not to go the rear-tire hugger route. Instead, I improvised from my spare parts bucket, new rubber mounts for the fender, and have it mounted at the correct angle on the frame via a shimmed rear tail-light assembly, to accomodate the suspension travel of the 2" over rear-end. It works, and didn't look near as bad as i thought it would, upon completion.

All mechanical bits have been ordered, installed and or sorted. The CT70 has been off of the coffee table/work bench for a little while now.

A few secondary items to be sourced or sorted yet: speedo/tach solution, possible carb gravity feed issue from petcock up to carb spigot, sticking rear brake arm/drum cam, and lengthen the sidestand.

As i am setting up the motorcycle for use, i am installing a 12volt battery/charging system, along with a wiring harness that i am adapting from a harness found at the cheap chinese bike shop. It is being wired up and equipped for off-road use only, however - no provision made for for turn signals, or licence plate wiring etc. Simple, play-bike provisioning only.

Originally, with the front end that i had ordered from trailbuddy, I had also ordered a 6" headlight assembly. In the end, this was incompatable with the front end headlight ear spacing. BUT - lurking in the back of my spare parts collection, was the solution.

I had a new chromed 8" headlight assembly, originally intended for a Streetfighter project a number of years back. As bought, I assume that the front end was intended to retain the stock 4" headlight shell, but if you reverse the ears, you get the spacing for a 8" headlight shell using modern 55/55watt Halogen H4's. Perfect. Lets hope the charging system keeps up.

At first, proportionally, you'd think that the headlight assembly is out of scale to the rest of the motorcycle. However, with the fender extensions installed, and the 3" higher/wider bars, along with extensive engine/wheel blacking out.. it just seems to work. I haven't seen any other CT70's so far, set up this way.

Pictures soon, once the wiring is complete and everything back in place.

This has certainly turned out to be more of an entry level 'kit-bike' build, than i really intended. Not much 'Honda' is remaining.

 

[Bandit Bill]

The project is finished, as of last night. Pulled it out of the living room this morning, and was able to fire it up for the first time - a few niggling issues i want to suss out (non-working kill switch? - most likely my wiring, but it's got a keyed switch so good enough for now) in due time.

[video=youtube;JkjllRCYx4k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkjllRCYx4k[/video]

I was able to fire it up, but the compression is unreal. I about killed myself in doing so, as i have an acute hip issue requiring hip replacement very soon - kick-starting a high-comp motor is DEFINITELY not a doctor recommended activity. I don't remember my old '78 Yamaha XT500 Thumper having this much compression - or kick-back ..

Due to the ongoing health issue, this CT70 will have to be stored away until next year - it'll need to wait until i am healthier, and i will pay dearly for today's fun, tomorrow - but the feeling of satisfaction of getting her finished and finally started up, was well worth it.

In the meanwhile, i've still got the '81 Honda C70 Passport that i've been having a ball on, over the summer - i can kick-start that, no problemo.

I've got 1 further CT70 project to go, based upon another '76 frame, with components coming from 3 mini-trails in total, 5 stockish motors that need some work in the form of a mix/match and top end freshen up, to come up with a good condition motor for the project. This will be a stockish bike - not a 100% restoration, but as clean as i can get it to stock. This may or may not happen over the winter - wholly dependant upon the surgery and progress of recovery.

I do need to get the garage cleaned up and organized before anything happens though - with the new edition, the garage has gotten packed stupid-full.

*Gulp* .. major space issues, ya think?​

Meanwhile, i think i'll be popping a pain-killer .. i think i'm gonna be needing it within the next hour or two ..

 

[Bandit Bill]

Ok, so it was such a beautiful autumn day, that i just couldn't resist to pull the finished project out again, and give it some exercise.



Nice little vanity photo there of ugly old me (get a comb dude!) and my C70 Passport and the finished CT70 (CT140?) Minitrail project.



And another...



Now we get to the bits and bobbles. The 30mm front end with disc front brakes. The bike has plenty of grip with those Michelin Reggaes, and stops on a dime with five cents change to spare.



The headlight on this thing is the previously mentioned 8" headlight assembly that i'd had for a streetfighter project, that i'd been collecting parts for in years past. I turned my street motorcycle into a sidecar rig instead, so it went unused. Brand new Germany spec Halogen 55/55 watt assembly. Perfect for burning the wings off moths at 10 paces.



Top down perspective of the bike. The handlebars are 3" over in height and width to match my spider-like proportions. The oil cooler is nice and large, as can be seen.



The 'CF' upswept exhaust tucks in quite nicely. Still gotta wear jeans, or you will suffer a nice thigh burn when it's hot.



The 'Go' bits. Carburetor is the Mikuni VM26 item. It's not quite carbureting as it should with choke fully off. I'll suss this out next season.



The other side of the motor. I machined up a custom bracket for a petcock assembly out of aluminum. The wiring to the headlight shell is run externally rather than through the frame. The previous owner 'frenched' in the wiring loom holes, the ignition hole, and pretty much every other hole he could find to lead-fill and smear body filler on - i couldn't be arsed to undo the wiring loom hole, since the ignition hole was almost bodged beyond repair in undoing what he did.



And the rear end of the wee beastie. Me like.



The next project in line, a '76 frame and most of the bits to put it together. The black frame is a '78 junker, only really good for parts salvage.



The 5 CT70 motors, shelved and awaiting attention for the next project.

Hope y'all enjoy the photo-spread. Stay tooned for the next project some day soon.

 

[johnmacd]

Nice job BB, thanks for the photos!

 

[honda191]

Looks very nice Bill!!!! I like the Front fender mud gaurd!! That is how we did it back in the day!! The rear fender with the extended swing arm turned out great as well.. The whole bike looks very very well thought out!!

Ron

 

[Bandit Bill]

Looks very nice Bill!!!! I like the Front fender mud gaurd!! That is how we did it back in the day!! The rear fender with the extended swing arm turned out great as well.. The whole bike looks very very well thought out!!

Ron

Thank you Ron, indeed it did turn out very well, and your company can take a lot of the credit for that, for many of the parts that are on it.. thanks!

As our Autumn is very short, and my will-power is extremely weak - i've continued to play with it an hour or two every day before it turns colder - holy heck is this 140cc motor thirsty - a 2 litre tank does NOT last long at all. I'm almost seriously considering a radical mod project to improve upon that with an auxilliary/replacement saddle-tank ala traditional motorcycles .. definitely a project in and of itself. I wonder if anyone has ever done this?

 

[honda191]

Need to check out our 5.5 L frame kit twice the range almost 90 miles on a tank of gas with a fully modded 125cc engine

 

[Bandit Bill]

While not a 'minitrail' as such, it is of the same engine family, so thought i'd post it up as a light restoration project to be done over this winter. It's destined for the street next summer.

a 1982 Passport with the CDI ignition, the 12volt electrics, and in Canary Yellow. Yay. It needs a light restoration. It needs a little TLC, an exhaust, and a pair of new shoes, but i did hear it run. This one is destined for the street, next summer.

A picture flood of the new '82 Passport addition:



Ridden 3 seasons, 3108 km's total, then parked for 24 years. What a waste.. Coincidently the same year that i had started riding on a $50.00 1966 Honda C65 Cub.



Last Registered in 1986, thereafter the original owner sold it to his brother in law on a promise to pay. He never picked it up.



Came with OEM front basket, and a 'barn-door' plexiglass windscreen. I bet that sucker reduced the top speed by 10 km/h.



The Bling CT70 can just be seen behind the couch in it's storage spot for the coming winter.





The exhaust looks good from a side view shot, but the back side has more holes than all the Swiss cheese in Switzerland.. a good example of why it's a good idea to fog up an exhaust with oil before storage, and occasionally thereafter for the duration.

Not sure what i'm going to do with either the '81, or '82 Passports in the way of work, modifications, or parts swapping. The '82 is destined for the street - the '81, i'm thinking that i wlll be reviving my long dormant account (last time i went nuts with it was for the sidecar rig sourcing parts for it ~5 years ago) and going on Ebay to farkle it up with some Asian aftermarket bits over the winter, as well as fully repair the lighting electrical system. Time will tell. Until i make up my mind, i'm likely not doing much with either.

Someday, i'll get to that 'bike in a box' CT70 sitting on the trailer for the start of the restoration...

 

[Bandit Bill]

First mod on the '82 Honda C70 Passport - a new exhaust to replace the OEM rotter. I could have gone OEM again, but, i decided to do something different as my '81 Passport is already setup as stock with a new OEM muffler.

I sourced this from Fast Trails Performance in Kleinberg Ontario, a local firm. It was a purchase made on a gamble that it'd be an adaptable fit - it looks like i gambled right.





It requires elimination of the rear foot peg (big whoop – who in their right mind would slow it down further with a passenger?!?) and it’ll require a slight trim of the lower edge of the leg-shield to clear the header bend, but other than that, basically bolt on and go. I haven’t finalized the fitting yet, but as can be seen, is the way it fits.

I think this is the first step towards up-rating the motor in this Passport - whether that will be an overbore stock motor, or an aftermarket Chinese, i'm not sure as of yet.

 

[Bandit Bill]

Been a long while since i updated this posting - so this time i'll do it with a few youtube videos.

[video=youtube;eTO0zMD1iKU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTO0zMD1iKU[/video]

This is of the CT70 that i put together out of mostly cheap chinese parts, last summer/early fall.

I found motivation to order a headlight that took replacement bulbs, and changed out the 8" Bandit shell i formerly had on it to the stock headlight shell. The reason why i did this, was that i found inspiration in an '82 CT70 speedometer that i had kicking around. With the large headlight, there simply was no room to mount it. I have only 1 good '76 speedometer in my collection of parts, so i wanted to reserve it for my next project. I fabbed up a custom bracket to mount it on, and threw a horn on the bike to complete.

I'm still playing with the idea of reconfiguring this one, in the process of building up my 2nd CT70 out of parts. All dependant on the mix of parts that i order in prep for that project. Time will tell, but for this summer it's good to go.

[video=youtube;gwPy9QB0Blg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwPy9QB0Blg[/video]

This is the '82 Honda C70 Passport converted now to solo seat version. I have NOT done anything in regard to the motor so far, it's still stock. I'm not going to do anything with the motor this year, except run it. I'll save motor work, for 'down the road', so to speak. It's known as the "Rubber Chicken Special Edition", for fairly obvious reasons.

As can be seen the swingarm and the tail-light bracket are off-color - I didn't realize that the paint on the replacement swingarm was so badly mis-matched until i got it out in the sunshine - but the bike passes the 10 Foot Rule for appearance, so it's ok at this time. Mebbie next winter i'll take it off and try again.

The exhaust is quieter now, than in the video. The other day i fabbed up an insert for the exhaust from billet aluminium, to reduce the exhaust outlet diameter. It also took care of some of my carburetion issues in the process.

Hope to have this one on the road before summer's end. Still can't ride after surgery in December, but good things come to those who wait.


[video=youtube;H4H2ePL7Zg8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4H2ePL7Zg8[/video]

And finally, a 360 view of my 'lil Honda collection as it stands on 2 wheels, for now. Good times. Sorry for the jerkyness of the video - i was hobbling about with a gimpy leg and no cane .

 

[OakBehringer]

Nice collection! Do you still have the OEM header you pulled from the yellow Passport? If you were to cut off the muffler and send it my way, I'd give you some dollars and really appreciate it. I've been casually looking for one for some time now.

Thanks,
Adam

 

[69ST]

"Rubber Chicken Special Edition"

Priceless...:24::77:

 

[Bandit Bill]

Nice collection! Do you still have the OEM header you pulled from the yellow Passport? If you were to cut off the muffler and send it my way, I'd give you some dollars and really appreciate it. I've been casually looking for one for some time now.

Thanks,
Adam

Argh. Sorry mate, i've actually scrapped 2 rusty/holed C70 mufflers within the past year. I would have gladly just posted it off to you or whomever wanted it, rather than just chuck them into dumpsters, if i'd known they were actually useful to someone else.

 

[OakBehringer]

Dah! Oh well.