DMV reg in Vermont for non title ct70

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  1. 13andFreedom

    13andFreedom New Member

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    I live in California. I was told it's a simple process for registering a non titled motorcycle in Vermont, even if not your home residence. They won't give a title, but you can use their registration card to get a title in your home state.

    To get my non-titled 1969 ko ct70 registered through Vermont DMV, I sent a bill of sale (notarized), picture of bike and vin. Correct DMV form filled out, and NADA print out of assessed value, and a check for the fees.

    They sent back everything above, and stated I must have blinkers to register an off road motorcycle in Vermont. The bike then must be inspected in Vermont.

    A 1969 ct70 is street legal without blinkers in both CA and Vermont.

    Anybody else try a Vermont registration and have this problem or any other problems?
     
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  3. red69

    red69 Well-Known Member

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    Unless they completely revised their rules, you have come across someone there that doesn't know the requirements for registration. Save yourself some grief and call the listed number to clarify what is required. I don't believe any state requires reengineering a vehicle without certain original safety equipment to comply with present day standards. If that were the case you would see Model T's with add-on signals.
     
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    cjpayne Well-Known Member

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    Bravo, for that statement!!!

    I hate dealing with people like that. They cause SO many migraines and get off doing it.
     
  5. Tripod

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    Did you fill out the form right? I have called the DMV in vemont for multiple issues, each time I spoke to a person, yes a person, who listened to my problem and had the common sense and autonomy to make the necessary corrections. California though.....
     
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    I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if VT changes things, eventually. Titling a vintage bike really isn't the clusterf***k it appears to be, in some states. It's about the money. Here, in MI, it was easy...typically under $100...fill out an affidavit, wait in line, they ran the VIN at the counter, you paid and your title arrived in the mail in about half the time they promised. The worst part of the process was the wait, if you went at the wrong time of day. Of course, it also depended upon the branch office and the clerk you had to face, things that could be learned over time, to your advantage. Then, we became one of those wise "red" states, the ones with "lower" taxes and "fewer" regulations. Since then, "surety bonds" have been required, average cost ~$300 and they're only available from private insurance companies. You're also limited to a certain number (that can never quite be settled) of titles after which you'd be required to "obtain" a dealer$ licen$e. Hmmm, wonder if the state can no longer check VINs or if...just maybe...it has something to do with the insurance lobby? 90 miles to the south, Ohio has always been a pain in the ass when it comes to titling. Of course, insurance costs ~45% of what it does here.

    Here's a kicker...
    In MI, a bike that's more than 25 years old and valued below than $2500 does not require a surety bond. Care to hazard a guess as to how easy it is finding a clerk that knows this?

    The bottom line is that it's a 50-state moving target. And some of the worst states are the ones you'd least expect...IA, OH, NB come to mind. Only way to find out is to find out, directly, by making inquires to your state's DMV. There are some pleasant surprises out there, too.
     
  7. 13andFreedom

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    I did call the Vermont DMV. The person (in this case a female - just filling in the blanks, not being sexist) told me I needed blinkers to ride motorcycles in Vermont. I did politely tell her a 1969 ct70 motorcycle was not produced with blinkers, and neither CA or Vermont required the blinkers on bikes before 1973 based on their laws.

    She told me that her 69 motorcycle had blinkers, and not only am I required to install the blinkers, but go to a Vermont inspection station for verification. At this point I wisely knew it was time to politely hangup. And possibly try again later.

    In the mean time, in CA, I went to the AAA. They said the bike is still in the system, and had been placed into non-operation at the DMV. But they won't tell me the prior owner.

    So. Now I have to find the owner in the system by tracking down each prior owner. Best of luck to me.
     
  8. red69

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    That woman you talked to is an idiot and should get a job picking crap with the chickens.
     
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  9. wanrep

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    That's why she's at the DMV. Chickens wouldn't have her.
     
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    Note to self, don't send pictures of the WHOLE BIKE! Just the VIN! :whistle:
     
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  11. Tripod

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    Im going to send in a z50 K0 and k2 this week...
     
  12. b52bombardier1

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    Here in Louisiana, Vermont has asked me to send in an inspection form on one of my bikes after rejecting my application. This was the "Louisiana State Police Affidavit of Physical Inspection" form. In the remarks section of this form was written "Vehicle meets all Louisiana laws for legal operation on public roads" . . . or something to that effect. Once I returned this form, the Vermont problem was resolved and they sent me the plate and reggie.

    Rick
     
  13. ‘71beast

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    I actually just sent out all the stuff needed to register my CT70 through Vermont the 11th so I’m waiting for the out come. I am in Ohio 10 hrs away from the vt dmv so if an inspection was needed it’s not impossible but the bike is completely disassembled.
     

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