Headlight troubles

cocaptianfork

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I am having headlight troubles with one of my 1970 Trail 70s and I was wondering if anyone had any pointers or have ever experienced the same problem. The problem is that the headlight works when it wants to, you can be riding with it on and then all of the sudden it will shut off and then it might come back on, might not. I have taken the headlight out and checked all the connections and they all seem to be good. Any help would be appreciated.
 
If you have checked the connections in the headlight bucket, I would take a look at the high/low beam switch. Power go's there first then to the headlight high and low beam's. HTH

Grant:4:
 
Grant's right. Check: Connections, Grounds, and Switches (hi/lo and ignition). Hope you solve it. Let us know what you find. Good Luck.
 
I am having headlight troubles with one of my 1970 Trail 70s and I was wondering if anyone had any pointers or have ever experienced the same problem. The problem is that the headlight works when it wants to, you can be riding with it on and then all of the sudden it will shut off and then it might come back on, might not. I have taken the headlight out and checked all the connections and they all seem to be good. Any help would be appreciated.


Also want to check the grounds! I would try grounding the headlight better. FWIW
Darrel
 
Check the ignition keyswitch. I ran into a similar problem. Sometimes the light would work properly, other times not. It usually started out alright, then faded while riding. Moving the key, even a few degrees, would sometimes restore brightness. Turned out to be oxidized contacts inside the switch. Cleaning the contacts solved the problem...temporarily. Eventually, a second cleaning and applying dialectric grease solved the problem. However, disassembling the switch and getting everything reassembled correctly was a total pain in the ass. Those minuscule pieces have a tendency toward "spontaneous acrobatics" and can be installed in multiple configurations. There's no exploded drawings, for reference, or repair procedures even outlined in any repair manual, making this a 3-D puzzle with a pass/fail test at the end. FWIW, I'd never do this again as long as new OEM, NOS, or good working examples could be sourced. Fortunately, this doesn't seem to be very common problem, so any keyswitch unit is more likely, than not, to function normally.

A weak ground point, or oxidized connection, is the most likely cause. That said, moving the key through it's range of positions is the definitive test for the switch unit itself, and the easiest test of all.
 
all above is correct...i spent 3 hours yesterday polishing the cheap ass cast aluminum honda fuel petckock (what a cheap valve) so as to alleviate a leak..i also have spent considerable time tracing wires with the honda schematics being as abysmal poor as they are..no voltage values listed, capacitance values listed..etc..it really does not matter as if we could locate a correct schematic it would all be in japanesse and is porobably in a file cabinet at the honda factory..point is racer is correct concerning the switch...i spent hours one night trying to get a busted key out and should have just bought NOS or like new off screw bay...racer is also right there is no schematic i have ever found which details what is inside the switch...honda does provide switch positions and what they do (ie day/night running) but anything of use is not out there concerning how to rebuild or how to put the darn thing back together...just my 2 cents
 
Thank you for all the tips, but the bike has thrown a new twist at me. The headlight doesn't work when you're in neutral, but when you put it in gear and take off then it starts to work. Is that a typical problem? I assume it's not supposed to happen, but you know what happens when you assume
 
Thank you for all the tips, but the bike has thrown a new twist at me. The headlight doesn't work when you're in neutral, but when you put it in gear and take off then it starts to work. Is that a typical problem? I assume it's not supposed to happen, but you know what happens when you assume

The wiring is not connected the way it should be. Pull the headlight and ensure all wiring in bucket are correctly hooked up.
 
Thank you for all the tips, but the bike has thrown a new twist at me. The headlight doesn't work when you're in neutral, but when you put it in gear and take off then it starts to work. Is that a typical problem? I assume it's not supposed to happen, but you know what happens when you assume

Put it in neutral and rev it and see what happens...On some bikes you can barely see the light without high revs or throttle. The faster you go, the brighter the light.
 
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