Honda Nice mileage log

Well, it's been about 3 months since installing the Nice engine in my China frame. I have 2,320 miles on the new engine. The frame, which was new in August 2008, has 8,923 miles on it. I ride almost daily either to work (16 mile round trip ) or just to ride. Engine performance is amazing. 50-55 mph all day. No more "tailgaiters" with this setup. That was one my pet peevs with my old China motor. This really is "The real deal".
From what I've read in this forum, there are not very many riders out there with the Nice engine in place. If you have been thinking about getting this engine for your bike, do yourself a huge favor and, get it. I've always believed you get what you pay for and my gut feeling was spot on with the Nice engine AND the China engine.
 

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69ST

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Mike, you're really rolling along! Halfway through the season and you're already eclipsing my usual total for a full season. Rock on! :rockon:
 

Jdmonealp

Member
Where'd you purchase the nice?(racer x also) I was looking at Asian concept Thailand and man, the prices aren't bad. Tax time I wanna get one for the chaly and one for the lowrider trail. The 88 isn't bad, just not enough power.
 

mfro

Member
kinda pricy located in thailand: Honda Nice 110 Engine Monkey Bike Z50 ZB50 DAX Nice110: eBay Motors (item 250667337478 end time Aug-14-10 21:26:18 PDT) - if you can find one in the states will save you some coin on shipping.

That price is pretty reasonable for a brand new Nice engine (rebuilt from spare parts, includes shipment) and, even more important: the seller is reliable (US citizen living in Bankok). I dealt several times with him (spares) and he was always more than accurate caring for his customers. I'd definitely recommend this offer if you can afford it.

If you order used engines from Thailand through other sources, you never know what you get until you receive it. I was lucky once (reconditioned engine was just good enough to recondition it again) but also received crap at other occasions where I had to invest nearly the same amount into spares I already spent to get it running.

Regards,
Markus
 
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HymieP

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I think when I purchased mine a year or two ago, it was about $1,800 brand new delivered to my doorstep in the U.S. I went through Yos at www.faddybike.com and have purchased many more "Nice" items and he is very professional. All of their stuff is first class and have never had any type of problem with fitment or orders. Great guy to do business with. Good luck
Jamie
 

mfro

Member
I think when I purchased mine a year or two ago, it was about $1,800 brand new delivered to my doorstep in the U.S. I went through Yos at www.faddybike.com and have purchased many more "Nice" items and he is very professional. All of their stuff is first class and have never had any type of problem with fitment or orders. Great guy to do business with. Good luck
Jamie

Agreed. Carsten (who is Faddybike) is one of the good guys also (a German living in Thailand).
 

fatcaaat

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I have purchased a rebuilt motor from Asian Concept. I got it mounted up, wired, and carbed and it started on 2-3 kicks. It runs pretty much flawlessly. The only issue I've had so far is that it has leaked oil...but that is because the bolts on the clutch cover were not very tight. I tightened them up and the leaking has stopped. While I only have about 50 miles on the motor, it has been a great purchase for me. I figure when its time to redo the top end, I'll just break the entire motor down for an inspection.
 

530SLXL

Member
Anthony is very helpful in tracking down hard to find Thai parts. He was very nice to me. I don't think you can go wrong with that deal either for the money. You will need to assemble the engine when you get it.
 

HondaNiceGuy

New Member
Thanks guys for the compliments. Just trying to help guys in the hobby get the parts they need without headaches. Take care.

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As far as Mileage goes I have personally seen Honda Nice 110 engines with well over 100,000 Kilometers on the clock. Still running along the streets of Bangkok.
 

fatcaaat

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I have about 450 miles on my honda Nice configured as a 142cc. I plan on getting another one for my chinese bike when it dies. Love em.
 

mfro

Member
I have about 450 miles on my honda Nice configured as a 142cc. I plan on getting another one for my chinese bike when it dies. Love em.

8000km (equals to about 5000mls) on mine (146cc, SH+R). Nothing but oil change and adjusted tappet clearance until recently.

I had a broken third gear (shift dog) two weeks ago. It turned out AC replaced a Honda gear with cheap aftermarket parts that failed when they reconditioned the engine (with me myself failing to recognize that during rebuild). I cannot really be angry with them since that gave me good reason to upgrade to a Takegawa 5-speed gearbox ...
 

fatcaaat

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8000km (equals to about 5000mls) on mine (146cc, SH+R). Nothing but oil change and adjusted tappet clearance until recently.

I had a broken third gear (shift dog) two weeks ago. It turned out AC replaced a Honda gear with cheap aftermarket parts that failed when they reconditioned the engine (with me myself failing to recognize that during rebuild). I cannot really be angry with them since that gave me good reason to upgrade to a Takegawa 5-speed gearbox ...



When you went with the taky...did you go with TAF? Also, did it require any additional modification? I'm curious about how the 146cc would be versus the 142cc? What cam are you running? What is your cruising speed and rpm?
 

mfro

Member
Hi!

I have a mate who just finished a 142cc Nice (albeit with a Yoshumura head). I'd say there's not much difference. I can't get him out of my slipstream but it's pretty much the same the other way round. The only way I can get rid of him is uphill: the either the Take head or the slighly larger capacity seems to rev up just a little further. The Yoshi, on the other hand, is much smoother and much softer sound-wise (mechanically).

I run a S30 cam. 60 to 70 mph is a comfortable cruising speed - I can tell since we just returned from a trip crossing the high alps - the only thing that was seriously hurt during 500 mls was my own bottom :21: . The engine tops out at about 77mph - equals to about 10000 rpm (might be possible that it runs faster in fourth, but I didn't try - that's more than fast enough for a Z50 anyway).
(All speeds measured with a Garmin GPS, motor was adjusted pretty lean with a #115 main jet since we had to cross close to 9000ft altitude. Engine oil temp never exceeded 230°F - not even on a 20mls "Autobahn" at continuous full speed - I don't run an oil cooler).

Regarding the 5-speed: it's the newer TAF-type. SuperStreet close ratio. Contrary to the Nice gearbox, you always find a gear that fits. It really doubled driving fun - shifting travel decreased and the gearbox shifts even smoother than the Nice gears which I consider already close to perfect.

You need to change the following to fit it to the Nice engine cases: cut the left case half to make room for the second gear, grind down the chamfer of the primary gear (the clutch moves to the middle) and remove the Nice oil bowl around the clutch. You'll also need a different/longer clutch actuator (the mushroom-shaped thingy that sits in the clutch cover). If you have a wide rear tire, you might run into problems since the countershaft of the Take gearbox is a little shorter on the sprocket side (might need to add an offset sprocket).

Regards,
Markus
 

fatcaaat

Well-Known Member
My nice is configured differently. I am 54 bore and 62 stroke to get my 142cc. I am set to rev 6750 for 55mph and it does that without any issue but just seems like the motor is busy at that speed. I run the s25 cam and have been considering putting the s12 in to bring the torque range down 1000 rpms. This motor tops out about 80mph at 10000 rpm.
 
I put my bike up for the winter today. Removed the battery, drained the gas tank and carb and cleaned the oil spinner. I had an absolutely fantastic season running the Nice engine in my bike. 4,785 trouble free miles.
I took one last ride before parking it. Stopped for lunch and had a couple of guys pull up in a truck and ask me :"Are you running nitrous in that thing, man, you were really haulin the mail." Apparently, I had just passed these guys and they were going to the same place for lunch. They made my day.
 

69ST

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Mike, you ride like I do...only more so:24: You've topped my 2010 season mileage by almost exactly 2000 miles. Unless someone else comes forward with a higher total, I do believe you are the unofficial mileage champion for 2010. :41:

Today is the day to wrap-up riding season, forecast high in the mid 70s, with conditions turning to :poop: over the following 24 hours.
 

mfro

Member
Respect!

Close to 2000 miles (a bit more than 3000 km) this year on both my Z50s each including our High Alps tour and vacation in Sardinia, Italy. We had frost over here last week already - end of 'having-fun-riding-season', start of 'having-fun-overhauling-and-building-season' :4:

Regards,
Markus
 
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