Honda Z50m - Tune up

power6994

Active Member
Hey guys,

I have a z50m which was always really hard to start. Compression felt a little low and came to 105psi when tested so it might be a bit more taking into account the length of the guage hose.

My original plan was to tear down the motor, measure everything and replace what was needed. Just before pulling the motor out I decided to just try and start the bike.

After a lot of playing around I couldn't get the bike to start but I know I had gotten it to start before so something wasn't right.

I thought I would start with the carb. Opening the air filter housing revealed no filter at all. An order to Jaimie had one on the way. Maybe it being too lean was making it hard to start even with the choke. After installing the filter no real difference occurred.

Off the carb comes. I spotted a few tiny granules in the clear fuel hose so I disconnected it and flushed them out. When I took the carb off I pulled out both Jets. The emulsion tube looked nice and clean but the pilot jet I couldn't see any light.

So carefully removing the blockage and a little soak in degreaser they were back in. I also took a look at the float level while I was at it.

The float height measured 16mm but the manual spec is 18mm. I carefully adjusted it and checked a couple of times.

With the carb now reassembled and installed into the bike I rechecked the pilot screw putting it at 1-1/4 turns out.

Ignition switch on, fuel on, two kicks and it comes to life. Brilliant!!

The bike was revving quite high so I thought it a good opportunity to use a pulse tacho that I purchased off eBay. You can put it to the ignition lead and it tells you the rpm. 3100ish was the reading.

Back to the manual calls for 1500 +-100rpm. Winding down the slide adjusting screw on the carb let the bike sit nicely at 1500 without any fluctuations.

Now at this point the best test you can do is a slow and fast roll on to see if there is any stutter or movement when it returns to idle. Both tests went very well leading to one happy backyard mechanic.

The weekend presented a lot of rain so I didn't get to go for a little test ride so those results will have to wait.

Hope this info is helpful to someone. But it was nice to sort out a small problem and not have to start tearing down the motor in search of something bigger.
 

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69ST

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Don't see many of these rare machines.

Compression testing a 49cc motor is a little challenging. I've never seen more than ~135psi on my gauge and that is, without a doubt, owing to the hose length. Seriously, the only way to get a true reading would be a gauge that can be directly fitted to the plug hole. It doesn't really matter, in this case. As long as the engine has no oil control issue(s), the intake port is clean and compression feels strong via the kickstarter, the engine most likely is healthy. As long as the oil has been kept clean, these little 50s have incredibly long cylinder, piston & ring life.
 
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