OEM Sprocket Sizes for '70 CT70KO?

My '70 CT70KO runs pretty great, but sounds like it's really winding out at 32mph? I'm thinking one of the previous owners wanted to do some serious Trail Riding (Like you could on this bike, Ha ha) and put a smaller front or larger rear sprocket on it.
 
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69ST

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According to the Honda parts manual, H models wore 14/45. However...I've seen a large number of these bikes that wore 44t wheel sprockets and many, if not all, of them were originals. I've always started with 15/45, when replacing the chain & sprocket set. Smaller than 15t shortens chain life and decreases chain-to-swingarm clearance. The ratios: 14/44 - 3.14; 14/45 - 3.21; 15/45 - 3.00.

A stock 4-speed should top-out around 45mph, on the flat, if it's healthy.
 
According to the Honda parts manual, H models wore 14/45. However...I've seen a large number of these bikes that wore 44t wheel sprockets and many, if not all, of them were originals. I've always started with 15/45, when replacing the chain & sprocket set. Smaller than 15t shortens chain life and decreases chain-to-swingarm clearance. The ratios: 14/44 - 3.14; 14/45 - 3.21; 15/45 - 3.00.

A stock 4-speed should top-out around 45mph, on the flat, if it's healthy.
This isn't an 'H' Model. It's a KO 3-Speed.
 

A5teroid

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My K0 (3spd auto) has the stock 15/38 sprockets and tops out around 36. This is with stock engine, carb, air filter, and exhaust.
 

kirrbby

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A5teroid, that sounds about right. I usually figure a stock 70 to go up to 40mph. 37-42 maybe. You could probably get a little more out of yours, but you aren't far off currently.
 

69ST

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Hmmm. I just checked. Mine is 15/36. Maybe the valves need adjusting. I guy below said his with 15/38 tops out at about 36mph. I don't feel that bad now though as I did after reading other CT70's cruise at 40MPH?
36mph top speed is weak. IF your K0 engine still has the original 17/69 primary gears, then you're 5% overgeared. These engines don't make much torque and don't tolerate even slight over gearing. Easiest way to find out if if over-gearing is slowing you down is a 2-way banzai run; that will eliminate the effects of wind or/and grade. If the sprocket combo is holding you back, then top speed should be 5-10mph faster on one direction.

If valve clearances of big enough to cause power loss, the valvetrain should be really noisy, hard to ignore. Check point gap, if it's less than 0.012" it's costing you power. Worn chain & sprockets can create enough frictional losses to scrub-off a few mph from the top. How's the airbox & filter element? Is the rear (inlet side) rubber boot pinched? Is the foam new(ish) & clean? What exhaust are you running? Originals can sometimes become partially clogged, that's not very common...only possible. If you're running one of those Chinese knockoff mufflers, that's the restriction right there...those things are very restrictive on anything bigger than 49cc.

Gotta say, my first thought is low compression. That's worth verifying. Without full compression, you'll never get full power.

I could see 35mph sustained cruise speed on a stocker. But normal top speed should be 42mph+.
 
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