Opinions on Sta-Bil fuel stabilizer?

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  1. SpecialEd

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    Okay, please school me on the advantages/disadvantages of using this product. Have any of you had experience using it? Is this an alternative modality to draining lawn tractor, Ct70, and weed whacker gas tanks for the winter period during which these machines will see no use? Or is simply draining the tank and subsequently running a machine "dry" better??

    Color me confused . . .
     
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  3. bruces

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    I have a friend whose cousin is our areas Kimpex rep .The guy uses this stuff religiously as he sells it ,yet every year (except this past spring )we have to tear the carbs off his boat ,mower ,atv ,etc,because of fuel problems from sitting in the off season .My friend and I don’t use this stuff and have no issues with our toys under the same conditions ,but we only use ethanol free gas in our equipment .last year his cousin after many years of disbelief ,had us put his equipment away in the same manner as we do ours ,and ....... everything was perfect in the spring .
    I know a lot of people like it and use it so I am not trying to start a pissing match ,just posting what has happened to us personally time and time again .
     
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  4. racerx

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    Drain the fuel systems (tank, lines, carb) dry and you'll have fewer problems, if any. The instructions included with my new chainsaw say to do this, or use Trufuel. Pump gas formulations vary wildly, by location and season. Thus, I no longer trust pump gas, not even the corn syrup-free flavor...just no reliable way of knowing what you're getting from the pump. That's not to say it's impossible to get decent fuel that way but, to consider how you'd verify it. Hint: hindsight is 20/20...
     
  5. wanrep

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    Personally, if I'm not going to use something from now 'til April, I drain the carb and tank and start fresh in the spring.
    That goes for cans of gas too. I dump them in my truck tank.
    Used to not be that way but that was before they started putting corn in our gas.

    Red Stabil was meant for gas (pre-ethanol) that was going to sit for 6 months or a year.
    They make a blue Stabil for ethanol fuel, usually found in the marine section.
    I use Lucas ethanol treatment in the bikes that may sit for a month or two between rides.
     
  6. Tripod

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    I use red sta-bil and Lucas ethanol treatment. Never had an issue yet.
     
  7. bruces

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    I don’t know about the states ,but where I live I can reliably get ethanol free gas at Shell ,sold under the V Power name ,the smaller stations don’t have it though .
     
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  8. OLD CT

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    I have the little blue bottle of Star Tron made by star brite, corn neutralizer in most of my stuff. A few of my CT's are drained dry. Stuff works good.
     
  9. Gary

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    I use it in everything all the time- I just have to many powered items to drain them all.Everything sits approx 6 months. All bikes,chain saws,weed whackers get drained,than run until they quit. My tractors made in the 40's and 50's I do absolutely nothing figuring that low compression and the type of fuels used back in the day it won't make much difference. Being in the NW burb's of Chicago we cannot get non alcohol fuel so I use either the Marine or the 360 Sta bil.
     
  10. ctbale

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    Full Tank (air is bad for gas and steel tanks)

    Empty Carb

    Unhook Neg battery terminal.



    If the gas is gunna be in the tank more then 9 or 10 months use a little stabilizer if it makes you feel better.

    If your gunna let it sit over a year ... sell it!
     
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    I have a big bottle of red stabil that I've used, anytime I thought it was a good idea. I usually mix it double dose, at least...more is better..?

    I've been trying to drain my bikes for long term storage, starting last winter.
    But, last winter I put pure fuel into some of my bikes...full tanks. I think 2 are still full of pure fuel from winter 17, still in storage.
    I think I have a couple in storage with full or partial tanks with stabil added...been there over a year. I may even have a couple more with partial tanks of plain old 1+ year old fuel in them, maybe 2 years.
    I'm not yet sure what I'm gonna do about all that.
    I'm too lazy to bring them all home for proper winterizing. I'd rather not have to pull carb bowls and swab out tanks AT my storage unit. I could maybe siphon out the tanks and refill them with pure or fresh treated fuel..?
    I could drain tanks and just pour in a cupful of SeaFoam (I'm a fan of SeaFoam) or WD-40..?

    I'm considering tossing out the stabil, and using seafoam in it's place. If I'm gonna gamble, I'd rather gamble on the seafoam.

    The bikes I haven't ridden in over a year, I should probably sell :)
     
  12. wanrep

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    I've often wondered how long Stabil is good for, on the shelf.
    Do they make a Stabil stabilizer?
     
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    One time I stored my old K1 for about two years, because the motor just got too tired and just wouldn't run anymore. All I did was drain the gas, sprayed the tank with WD40(about a 1/16 of a normal size can), and then closed both valves. When the motor was reinstalled, I had no carb issues at all. Just put new gas in it.
     
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    Lol
    it probably has an indefinite shelf life until mixed with gas. Direct sunlight probably breaks it down though.
     
  15. ctbale

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    If they had a stabil, for the stabil ..... how long would that last? maybe that would have to get stabilized too! lol
     
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    I believe that Sta-Bil worked better when gas had MTBE in it instead of Ethanol. If there is any way you can get non-ethanol gas, use that instead. If you can't, drain the carb base and blow the carb dry with compressed air. I wouldn't bother draining the tank unless I was letting it sit for a long time...like a year or so.
    My 2 cents (actual street value).
    Joe
     
  17. wanrep

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    If we're having this much fun with E10, I can't wait for E15. :mad::mad::mad:
     
  18. OLD CT

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    The red stuff gets ''chunky'' when it sits on the shelf tooo long. It's garbage.
     
  19. Gary

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    The red stuff does have a shelf life it is listed on the back with a spot for you to fill in the date you opened. I use the green marine stuff,don't think there is an expiration on it. At one time the red was for pure gas, the green was for alcohol / marine
     
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    I'm a Star Tron fan . But any thing I can drain easy I drain it . But things like my Zuma scooter I drain the tank - add a splash of Star Tron - start it and let it run .
     
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    That's it, in a nutshell. If it cannot be drained, fuel "stabilizer" is the next best choice. The main issue is oxidation and the only way to prevent oxidation is to prevent oxygen from mixing with the fuel. Fill a one-gallon can with 2018 pump gas, keep it tightly sealed (i.e. completely airtight), and the fuel will still be fine months later.

    Most fuel systems are nowhere near airtight. Most power equipment...chainsaws, mowers, trimmers, etc...have permanently vented caps. They're also easy to drain and only hold ounces of fuel. Bigger machinery, especially anything with a fuel pump, is more problematic. Fuel pumps don't like being dried. Diaphragms turn brittle after contact with ethanol. In-tank pumps need liquid fuel to lubricate the internals and for cooling. These little bikes have neither, so it's efficient to just drain the fuel system dry.

    If you're going to store a machine with fuel, the best bet is storage-blended fuel. Anyone interested in doing some homework on the topic would do well to comb through the VP website.
     

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