Semi auto to manual

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  1. Anthony Campano

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    Just wanted to know if it’s possible to change for 4speed semi automatic to 4speed with manual clutch is it expensive and worth the effort and money any information ℹ️ would be appreciated. Thx Anthony.
     
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    Dratv has the manual conversion kit for 170. Then you need a AHP 4 speed transmission for 150 and a clutch cable.
     
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    Thx so much you are a wealth of information is wish you were my next door neighbor. I’m going to wind up in the nut house over this scooter. Seriously addicted. .
     
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    Clutch type is, mechanically, independent of the transmission. It's also possible to build a 3-speed with a manual clutch, don't even have to split the cases.
     
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    Thx racers I’ll keep that in mind I like the control with the clutch I’m more nervous as I get older.
     
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    I've always preferred a manual clutch, too. Only exception would be when trying to carry something too big for the rear rack...and that's not often. That said, some owners flat-out prefer the semi-automatic. Nice to know that riders in both camps can have their preference.:)
     
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    After you have a little more time and experience with your semi-auto setup, you may decide it's not worth the effort to do a manual swap. The semi-auto works well when it's working properly. If you move the shift lever up, or down, and hold it there, it disengages the clutch...JUST like a hand lever on a manual clutch setup would. Then you can release it, fast or slow, JUST like you can with a hand lever.

    One disadvantage of the semi-auto is that you don't have the ability to pull in the clutch lever and downshift quickly at speed...you have to wait for the speed to drop, to match the gear you're changing into.
     
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    Try... winding out second gear...then change to third, but hold the shift lever for a Xtra second while you rev the engine... enough to get a little wheelie when you release the lever and engage the clutch in third gear.

    If you try this....PLEASE be careful. I don't want to cause you any pain. lol
     
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    The inherent disadvantage of the semi-automatic is that it affords the skilled rider less control, overall. Downshifting, at speed, as one would do on the road is a biggie. So, too, is dealing with trail riding, when the sudden shock load reversals...as when navigating whoop-de-doos...beat the piss out of the driveline; being able to squeeze a clutch lever, spares every part from the sprocket dampers to the primary drive gear from taking a real beating. It's also a helluva lot easier pulling in the clutch, to freewheel at any speed...than it is holding the shift lever, or finding neutral. For that matter, shifting into neutral, at speed, is usually accompanied by a loud "KERAKKK" an unmistakable byproduct of gears being hammered.
     
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    Oh ya...and, there's all of that too :--)
     
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    This a.m. I missed that fact you have a clone ''4 speed'' auto already. I thought 3 speed for some reason. No 4 speed trans needed then.
     
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