b52bombardier1
Well-Known Member
Yep. You should get it and a temporary sticker followed shortly thereafter by a permanent sticker good for one year.
Rick
Two CT90 and two ST90 bikes
Rick
Two CT90 and two ST90 bikes
Victory In Vermont - My Third License Plate Arrived!
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b52bombardier1
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Ya gotta love those Vermont DMV folks!!
Rick
Two CT90 and two ST90 bikes
Rick
Two CT90 and two ST90 bikes
Waveraider
Member
Is it necessary for this? My 74's turn signals dont work. Also, what is the correct amount to send in, $71 or $75?
b52bombardier1
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Yes. This is necessary for a 1974 bike that had a requirement for turn signals and I have been denied once by Vermont for not having an inspection report.
It will be $71 unless the fees have gone up as long as you value your bike at $500. The fee amount varies as a function of bike value times the 6 % tax - unless things have changed.
Rick
Two CT90 and two ST90 bikes
It will be $71 unless the fees have gone up as long as you value your bike at $500. The fee amount varies as a function of bike value times the 6 % tax - unless things have changed.
Rick
Two CT90 and two ST90 bikes
b52bombardier1
Well-Known Member
While I share your concern here, this is simply a new way for the states to generate revenue. They want our money and understand that most of us do not run these bikes daily for lots of miles and we simply want a title.
And besides, they already know what we are doing. So the cat is out of the bag anyway.
Rick
Two CT90 and two ST90 bikes
And besides, they already know what we are doing. So the cat is out of the bag anyway.
Rick
Two CT90 and two ST90 bikes
hobojoe
Member
I do believe the minimum amount for a taxable charge on a vehicle is $200.00. Meaning you have to pay tax on a minimum of 200 dollars even if your bike cost less. VT sales tax is 6% so that's a whopping 12 dollars! But as Rick said they sometimes look up the nada value of your bike and use that estimate for tax purposes, especially if you don't list a vehicle price. Taking Ricks advice of listing your bikes value at 500 dollars still only costs you 30 bucks in taxes!
In Vermont it's legal for non residents to register vehicles, it has to do with the fact that half the states population is made up of seasonal dwellers aka second home owners.
technically, you have to get the bike inspected by a VT state inspection facility 14 days after registration is submitted, most auto repair service stations are inspection sites so never really any police involved. It's then that you need to show proof of insurance. They won't inspect without it. Since you are all out of state, i imagine you don't have to worry about this ever and the inspection of minimal requirements on a bike i.e. working headlight, turn signals (if required by model), at least one mirror and i think a horn are superfluous.
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hobojoe
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CYL simply means "Cycle" they did this on mine too!
ctynot
Member
cats in bag
ive been doing it for 3 years now ,also had mich- titles they stopped it for a while then raised the price, im not saying -stop sending you state money -just keep it low key -i have ten titled bikes and would like to keep it going--and its 500.00 bike value and 46.00 payment
ive been doing it for 3 years now ,also had mich- titles they stopped it for a while then raised the price, im not saying -stop sending you state money -just keep it low key -i have ten titled bikes and would like to keep it going--and its 500.00 bike value and 46.00 payment
hobojoe
Member
ctynot, i don't think you have anything to worry about. Vermonters, those of us who live here year round, are well aware that our state gets most of it's money from those people who don't live here year round, in some case there are towns made up almost entirely of seasonal residents. This law isn't going to change anytime soon. We've got bigger problems to deal with... like heroin! at least according to Ol' Gov. Shumlin...
hobojoe
Member
Pico, "the locals stash!" I live about 40 mins west of Pico and I night ride at Bolton at least once a year! My friends in Jersey City are the ones who turned me onto CT's about three years ago! They come up and we ride every summer now! I've twice been to Jersey for bikes, My ST70 DAX and CL70 were both brought north outta NJ! CHeers! (I know, OFF TOPIC...)
Waveraider
Member
What cracks me up is all these guys with DUI's and no DL riding around on un-plated scooters at 40-50 MPH. If I ride my un-plated CT70 at 35-40 MPH, I can get a ticket, possible points on my license, and my bike impounded...
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Looks like fuelboy and I will be taking this route since we live in TX. This is a big headache saver. As I've said, we are ready to begin tear down on our bikes. I'd say we are 95% sure these things are not stolen or have any liens, etc. However, we do have concerns about spending a ton of time and money on these only to find a hiccup. My plan was to try and title my HKO before breaking the motor away from the frame (per the advice of racerx) and before spending a lot of time/$$. Just piece of mind really....
Question - Per some of the original info in this thread, in order to title and get a plate from VT, the bikes have to have a certificate/form from a local police official stating they are road worthy. Correct? If so - this means I can/should/will have to get my bike up and running before I get the road worthiness certificate. This means pulling the motor off the frame and pretty much doing the restoration.
My bill of sale is dated early May 2014. Say I don't get the bike up and running for 8 months to a year. Is a year old BOS going to be an issue? Is a year old BOS stating I bought the bike for $350, but it's restored and worth $1000+ going to be an issue?
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b52bombardier1
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First off - you will never get a title from Vermont for our kinds of bikes -- plate and registration only. The bike is older than fifteen years and less than 300 CC's. This reggie paperwork is usually enough to break the DMV logjam in most states and has been great for me three times in Louisiana.
Yes. It will certainly assist that your bike is roadworthy before going the Vermont route. Montpelier denied me on my first application and I had to resubmit with the "this bike is Louisiana roadworthy" in the remarks section of the Louisiana State Police inspection form.
I am not completely sure but you will pay for tax purposes the higher of a $500 taxable value or your bill of sale amount. My bikes have all had 200 or 300 dollar BOS amounts but Montpelier valued them at 500 bucks. My bikes are all worth more than 500 bucks now and back then and no DMV knows or cares.
Rick
Two CT90 and two ST90 bikes
Yes. It will certainly assist that your bike is roadworthy before going the Vermont route. Montpelier denied me on my first application and I had to resubmit with the "this bike is Louisiana roadworthy" in the remarks section of the Louisiana State Police inspection form.
I am not completely sure but you will pay for tax purposes the higher of a $500 taxable value or your bill of sale amount. My bikes have all had 200 or 300 dollar BOS amounts but Montpelier valued them at 500 bucks. My bikes are all worth more than 500 bucks now and back then and no DMV knows or cares.
Rick
Two CT90 and two ST90 bikes
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Thanks Rick.
So I'm just going to have it plated and registered in VT......but that should make it easier to get a title here in TX??
Here is pretty much what I think I would have to do in TX since it has no MOS, no title, no registration, no plate, and is not road worthy.....it's really a "parts bike" at this point.
1) Get a bonded title at 1.5x the value.....but in order to get bonded title, I will have to....
2) Have the bike appraised to find what 1.5x the value is.
3) Once it is appraised, I can get a bonded title.
4) After I have the bonded title clears, I can apply for a regular title, register and inspect, and get TX plates.
Question is....even if I register and plate the bike in VT, will I have to have the bike appraised for a bonded title application in TX and do the process anyway? Is going thru VT a waste of time/$$?
Again - if others here in TX have had to deal with the TXDMV, I'd appreciate a chime in! :yo:
So I'm just going to have it plated and registered in VT......but that should make it easier to get a title here in TX??
Here is pretty much what I think I would have to do in TX since it has no MOS, no title, no registration, no plate, and is not road worthy.....it's really a "parts bike" at this point.
1) Get a bonded title at 1.5x the value.....but in order to get bonded title, I will have to....
2) Have the bike appraised to find what 1.5x the value is.
3) Once it is appraised, I can get a bonded title.
4) After I have the bonded title clears, I can apply for a regular title, register and inspect, and get TX plates.
Question is....even if I register and plate the bike in VT, will I have to have the bike appraised for a bonded title application in TX and do the process anyway? Is going thru VT a waste of time/$$?
Again - if others here in TX have had to deal with the TXDMV, I'd appreciate a chime in! :yo:
b52bombardier1
Well-Known Member
For the Louisiana DMV, they are satisfied if I bring in the instructions / rules that go with Vermont DMV Form 119 - that state's registration form. The rules about not creating a Vermont title for bikes older than 15 years and smaller than 300 CC's seems to be sufficient for the Louisiana system and they give me a title.
Maybe it will be enough for Texas.
Rick
Two CT90 and two ST90 bikes
Maybe it will be enough for Texas.
Rick
Two CT90 and two ST90 bikes
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