What's it worth?? 1964 Honda C200 Super90

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  1. lukelaw1

    lukelaw1 Active Member

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    I ran across this 1964 Honda 90 C200?? I know very little about these. I do not know if it runs, drives, or even turns over. I do know that the front fender, poorly recovered seat, and title. Let me know a fair value. 1127221269.jpg 1127221292.jpg 1127221309.jpg 1127221327.jpg 1127221279.jpg 1127221287.jpg
     
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  3. scooter

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    I picked one up about 6-7 years ago. Mine was ruff I think I paid around $500 for it. I like the toaster tank and it’s a smaller version of my 305 Dream. Good luck
     
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    I don't know what it's worth. But that is a very cool lookin bike luke. I think you'd get a lot of attention riding that thing around town.
     
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    The little research I did, the c200 is a mini version of the dream. This bike does have a nice appeal to it. I'm sure it probably wouldn't take much to get going. I just don't want to get a bunch of money tied up into this and have a hard time selling or worse a lot of $$ plus can't get running. I have been cleaning up some extra parts laying around and have currently listed on eBay. I was thinking about taking that profit and reinvesting in stroking my cl70.
     
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    low to high, around 400-800 bucks. Great bike, easily upgradeable, most any part can be found repro or n.o.s

    Best if you are under the six foot mark.
     
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    Cool bike, I dunno about that ballbuster seat though:eek:.

    Those vintage, pushrod, 89cc motors are interesting in their own, quirky, ways. As I recall, they relied on splash oiling...yet...they really revved and were damn-near bulletproof. If my memory hasn't faded too much, C200 motor mounts are compatible with z50/CT70. So, if you were to find one of these bikes that was too far gone, or an orphaned motor and wanted to build something unusual...
     
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    I never thought to check the engine bolt pattern and compare to a CT70. Will check this weekend and give RacerX an appropriate grade
     
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    It'll be interesting to see if this engine is of the same basic series as the CT200-flavor 89cc lump of this same era. I checked the Honda guide to see if my memory was completely addled, or not. Back in 2000 I had a CT200 motor fitted to a CT70 frame...it was a bolt-in fit.
     
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    Not same bolt pattern. The 50cc pushrod is the same, but the 90 is the same as ct90. I'm fairly certain on that. I would love someone confirm it as i've always wanted to put a pushrod motor into a CT70.
     
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    I had a pushrod motor fitted to a K1 frame. That was about a year before you put your ATC125M-powered machine on ebay...quite some time ago. Thus, the only details I can still clearly recall are that it fit the mounts and the SN began "CT200....". Had a friend that wanted the motor to restore a mid-`60s Honda and the Z110 looked like more power for less work, so I gave him the motor. You've got me wondering just wtf I might have actually gotten, I sourced that motor via ebay and you know how things can be misrepresented. Still...that SN prefix...???
     
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    Yeah I"m not sure. I put the ATC125M motor in a bike in 2002. I still have the bike, with a Nice 127 4v+r motor in it. But I will picking up someone's collection this weekend which allows me to consider new ways to configure these. A pushrod engine with a downdraft carb would be interesting . One of the frames I see is fairly dented, so it could become the skin I use for my grom motor version. WHo knows...
     
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    Yeah, I dunno either...one more frame/engine combo turned to vaporware by the passage of time. I'll have to check my archives, I have (had) at least one, maybe two, photos showing Daxes with pushrod motors in their boiler rooms. Unfortunately, the displacement(s) may be impossible to verify, at this late date. My experience with pushrod motors is very limited. From what I've seen, they're suprisingly revvy and make pretty decent hp, for their displacement. Back in 2000, however, I just wanted a 4-speed/manual and more than 72cc displacement. I agree, those downdraft carbs have an old-school gearhead look.
     
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    After checking my spare frames - can confirm the following all have the same motor mounts. RacerX gets an A. The C200 is part of the set

    Z50
    CT70
    C100 (SuperCub)
    C110 (SuperSport Cub)
    C200 (Touring 90)
     
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    Can also confirm the S90 doesn’t match the set above
     
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    Update:
    This bike sold for $1300
     
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    I just saw one of these at an antique shop on Saturday. Guy wanted 500 for it and wouldn't budge. It was complete and the guy claimed it ran, but it looked like it lived its whole live outside. I didn't ask him to start it as it was raining, but it was a neat bike to see in person.
     

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