Z50 monkeybike with a few mods...

A few more pics:

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I've been filling holes and putting down pavers in my yard, I wanted a winding path around the deck without stepping on sharp rocks or cactus spines, LOL. :eek:
 
Holy cow, I'd forgotten about that ridiculous carbon fiber can on the exhaust, LOL... there are some still pics of my bike on Page 31 of this thread, and some videos on following pages. I miss riding in the White Mountains, even though some of the dirt roads and trails had $h!tloads of rocks on 'em, rocks the size of grapefruit which one had to avoid like the plague unless he wanted to eat $h!t, LOL. Don't ask me how I know this... :whistle:
 

MountainMini

Active Member
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That bird looks like a real character, LOL. Nice riding area, we had the tall Ponderosa pines in the White Mountains, with some cedar and other stuff mixed in, but mostly tall pines. Same deal with the wildlife, I'd see herds of deer and the occasional elk while riding, one time an elk cow crossed the dirt road ahead of me, jumped back out of the forest and ran ahead of me for 20 or 30 yards, then vanished back the way it came... I backed off my throttle and just watched the critter, didn't wanna tangle with an elk on my mini, LOL. It'd be Elk, 1, Mini Rider, 0!!! :eek:

I've been considering another move to the Sierra Vista area, just because there are more work opportunities down there... I hate commuting with a passion, even 40 minutes each way, so I may sling my home after all and get on down there. By down, I mean south, Sierra Vista is actually at a higher elevation than Benson... which suits me fine. If I do this, I will probably buy a full-sized dirt bike or Enduro so I can start trail riding again, especially out by the Stronghold. That's Cochise Stronghold, you can Google it to see pictures, it's a huge natural stone fortress and world-class climbing area. :rolleyes:
 

MountainMini

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That bird was “ANGRY”. I probably passed his part of the trail 20 times in my days out there, he came out at me about 17 of those crossings. Once, I put my hand down and he jumped up and bit my finger (gloves on) and two other times when I stopped he jumped up and pecked at me on the top of my riding boots.

Bear spray and a boat air horn are part of my riding kit, because there are a lot more dangerous critters than the bird around here. It’s mostly, lodgepole pines where I ride. Uniformly round and tall. Riding altitude is around 5,000-6,000 feet above sea level.
 
That's a good elevation, many trails in the White Mountains of Arizona are at that elevation and the riding is excellent... clean air, plenty of scenery and wildlife, not many badges or revenue collectors to give riders grief, a regular paradise!!! :cool:
 
Resurrection time for this thread, gotta show a gal my old FrankenBike, lol... been talking to my bank (USAA) about a cycle loan, should know by Monday if the loan is approved. Found a sweet Husqvarna FC 450 for $10K, it's a 2019 bike but never sold, 10-4? Problem is, I'd hafta add lights and whatnot to make it street legal, so I've also been considering a "new" 2019 Suzuki DR-Z 400 which is pretty nice for an enduro. The Husky would be awesome, but the Suzuki is only $6800 or whatever... a smaller DR 200 is even cheaper at $4200 or $4900, depending upon which model year I might choose, but I don't think a 200cc bike would give me enough power for the pavement, like tooling down to Tombstone on Hwy. 80 to trash around Big-Nose Kate's Saloon. :rolleyes:

I really want a thumper, something with enough power to handle anything, yet light enough to sling around like so much hash in the dirt, lol. I'm targeting bikes in the 350-450cc range, but I also want something street legal so I can ride to work and tool around on days off... I could add lights to the Husky, or to a bad-@$$ YZ 450F, but I kinda want something ready to roll on pavement, no trouble with Johnny Law that way, AYE??? Anyway, it has been fun shopping around for a bike, I'm looking forward to riding out to the Stronghold this spring, hopefully with a climbing partner on another bike or in a Jeep or "lifted disco truck" or whatever. There's a HUGE adult playground out there in the Dragoons, and I intend to use it, lol. Back to my beer... CHEERS!!! :red70:
 
Oh, yeah, I also saw a sweet Suzuki RM-Z 450 that was BAD@$$, but again, I'd have to add lights and horn and whatnot to make it street legal... nice bike though, nothing wrong with an RM from Suzuki, my friend had an early model and that bike ripped in the dirt. :yellow70:

Meh, guess I'll go drool over some Hondas & Kawasakis, all four of the major "Jap Cr@p" manufacturers produce pretty nice bikes, lol... :cautious:

It'll probably boil down to whichever street legal thumper is available at the best price... but I like that Husky & that RM, 10-4??? :red70:

In case y'all are wondering why I don't buy a bike off C/L, I kinda want a nice new bike, or a bike with low mileage that nobody has THRASHED yet... I'll do the thrashing on my new bike, LOL. :eek:
 
Stayed up late watching video reviews of various bikes... guess the Suzuki DRs are off the table, one guy didn't like the brakes on the 400 for road use, while the bike is tall and the wheels & tires are skinny. Might go with a Honda 450L, and even though it has less power I also liked the Kawasaki KLX 250 in Camo Gray, that would be a great bike to hide in the brush while climbing crags at the Stronghold, lol. Guess I keep looking today, I'm enjoying the search... still trying to find a suitable thumper, but I'm edging back toward the 250cc bikes because they're lighter and less expensive, only 300 lbs. or so, which means I could also throw it on the cargo carrier behind The Mighty Camry for out-of-state trips. o_O

On the other hand, if I'm willing to deal with the weight, I can get a 650cc thumper on sale for $6700, lol. Y'all see my dilemma... thank goodness there are so many video reviews on the Interwebs, you can see & hear how each bike rides, 10-4? That's one downside to the 250cc class, the motors get noisy at freeway speed compared to the 400cc and 450cc bikes. "Buzzy" is how one rider put it, lol... that might get annoying if I were to ride it for any length of time, like out to Dago and back, a 450 would handle that task WAY better. But I'll probably drive my car anyway, so I can haul all my field gear and extra clothing for the trip... and the car would definitely be safer in Dago with all those Tijuaneros on the road, lol. :eek:

Anyway, I gotta get cleaned up and do some laundry, I never got around to it yesterday while searching for a suitable bike. I'll make a decision soon enough, it's just that there are so many choices... I'm like a kid in a candy store with these bikes on the Internet, lol. I've seen some really cool road bikes too, full-on rice rockets that would be GREAT for tooling around on pavement, but NOT so hot in the dirt, and that's a high priority for any bike ridden to the Stronghold... a rice rocket would be ridiculous out there, lol. Meh, I'll figure it out, I'm ready to have some fun this spring as the weather improves... though it's pretty darned nice right now, with a forecast high around 70 degrees this afternoon. :rolleyes:

Y'ALL BE GOOD, I'LL KEEP YA POSTED ON WHICH BIKE I EVENTUALLY CHOOSE... CAN'T WAIT TO RIDE OUT TO THE STRONGHOLD AND GET SOME BAD@$$ PICS TO POST HERE AT THE OL' WEBSITE, LOL. :whistle:

CHEERS, YOUSE MONKEYBIKING HEE-ROES & CRUSTY MINI DEMONS O' DIRT!!! :red70:
 

mark from florida

Active Member
I went thru this same dilemma about 2 years ago. at the time I had a 1000 cc Suzuki. stupid fast and not super fun to ride. approaching 60 and don't heal like I used to. ended up buying a xr 650 l honda. super reliable. a bit heavy but will cruise at highway speeds no problem. did a couple minor mods. pipe,desmogged and jetted.the bike pulls now like a tractor. put warp 9 supermoto wheels with nice street tires. rides beautiful.when I want to go back to dirt,just pull axles and install old wheels.yes I to drooled all over the husky 501 supermoto. just didn't want to spend that much. don't think they are going to be as reliable as this old war horse.
 
Ya know, I took another look at the Kawasaki & Suzuki 650cc thumpers, and they are LIGHTER than what 650s USED to weigh, by a considerable amount. I was thinking the bikes would weigh 500 lbs., or something close to it, but they're only around 360-370 lbs? That's not that bad, and I won't be riding like a Crusty Demon in the dirt, just getting out there to the crags to have some fun... the other half of the equation includes commuting to work in nice weather (all surface streets with a 35 m.p.h. speed limit), and running these backcountry two-lane blacktop highways where I want a bike with some power. For instance, running Hwy. 80 to Tombstone, or working my way over to Mt. Graham in the Pinaleno Mountains during the summer, when I'll want to get up to 10,000' elevation, ya know? Or even riding up to the White Mountains again, where a bigger thumper would be WAY more comfortable for the relatively long ride. :rolleyes:

So I'm reconsidering the whole situation... another option would be to downsize to that KLX 250 in Camo Gray and use my cargo carrier more often, same way I did with the pit bike and Z50/140 in Show Low, that KLX is light enough to go on the carrier. It's a tough decision, since the smaller bike wouldn't matter on my low-speed 35-m.p.h. commute to work, it's just the high-pitched whine and high RPMs on the highway or interstate that concern me, plus the lower amount of power compared to a big ol' 650 thumper. There's not much traffic here compared to Dago, Phoenix, or even Tucson, but sometimes we get those idiot drivers from the Big City, all in a hurry on their way to visit Tombstone or wherever, and the smaller bike would definitely be a drawback in those situations. With a big ol' 650, I could twist the throttle and put some distance between myself & those f#% pronto, LOL, and sometimes that's the SAFEST option, 10-4? :confused:

Anyway, I'm still hashing it out, my bank turned me down for a cycle loan, even though I own my home free & clear and have a good steady gubmint job, go figure... p!$$ed me off too, I'm about to drop-kick the fools like I'm STARRIN' in the NFL. However, I'm thinking one of these dealerships will be glad to take my steady payments, we'll see what happens. This loan drama stems from the fact that I have no credit: I don't have BAD credit, I just never bothered to ESTABLISH credit because I don't hold with DEBT SLAVERY created by GREEDY BANKSTERS, AYE? I usually pay CASH for everything, or use my Visa debit card, and that works just fine for me, since I own my home, my car, I have full medical coverage, life insurance, all that bull$h!t... but I didn't play the game of life THEIR way, so the cheesed!cks at my bank are gonna deny me a cycle loan of a few lousy grand, PFFFFFFFFFFT. o_O

Guess it's time to research other banking options, I have banks here in town which offer pretty good terms where accounts are concerned, no bull$h!t fees and no friggin' hassles... it's this whole "OH, YOU DON'T HAVE CREDIT SO WE'LL HAVE TO DENY YOUR CYCLE LOAN" mentality which p!$$es me off, fact is I'm doing a heckuva lot better than many @$$holes in modern society, AYE? For starters: NO RENT & NO MORTGAGE. NO CAR PAYMENTS. LOW COST OF LIVING, EVEN THOUGH I LIVE LIKE A KING. LOW UTILITY BILLS & PROPERTY TAXES... and the list goes on. Meh, like I said, some reorganization may be in order, with new banksters & insurance f#%s in place to serve their PETTY LITTLE PEON F#%NG ROLES. That's the beauty of a STRONG ECONOMY under TRUMP, a man has CHOICES, YEAH??? :cautious:

And here's more BANKSTER-RELATED BULL$H!T which folks should be aware of in modern society: the whole STIGMA of LIVING WITH YOUR PARENTS!!! Lemme give y'all a clue: ALL AROUND THE WORLD, MULTIPLE GENERATIONS LIVE UNDER ONE ROOF, BUT YA DON'T HEAR THE DIRTY BANKSTER SWINE OR THEIR CREDIT CARD SCUMBAG OUTFITS SQUAWKING ABOUT IT, DO YA??? Oh, that's right, much of that multiple-generations-under-one-roof action occurs in THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES, so it would be "RACIST" to even mention the fact, PFFFFFFFT. But it's okay for these DIRTY SWINE & THEIR TOOLS to disrespect, nay, even BASH Young Whitey (male or female) for living with parents after age 18... ONLY IN AMERICA, AYE??? And ya hear Hollywood scum SQUAWKING about "living in Mom's basement..." The STOOOOPID F#%NG TOOLS, perhaps they should focus on all the FOREIGNERS who LIVE UNDER ONE ROOF right here in the United States, YA THANK?!?!? :confused:

MEH, ENOUGH SAID, TIME TO CRACK ANOTHER COLD ONE & SHARE QUALITY TIME WITH THE KITTEHS... YA SUPPOSE THEY'RE "LIVING IN DADDY'S BASEMENT???" PFFFFFFFFFT... THE DIRTY BANKSTER & CREDIT CARD SWINE!!! :mad:

NOT TO MENTION THE HOLLYWOOD TOOLS WHOSE @$$ES ARE BOUGHT & SOLD LIKE SO MANY BRANDED & EAR-TAGGED CATTLE... :poop:

ALL BE THE SAME IN A HUNDRED YEARS... RIDE ON, YOUSE MONKEYBIKING HEROES & CRUSTY MINI DEMONS O' DIRT!!! :red70:
 
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MountainMini

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Used to have a 1985 XL 600 enduro, street legal. It was good on the highway and pavement in general. Gravel and dirt roads were good too. Lots of power for the trail but I found it too heavy and bulky for the technical stuff on serious mountain trails.

Last summer I came across a guy on the trails he had a Kawi KLR 650. He road it out to the trail head from the city a mix of good pavement to crappy pavement then gravel roads and the trailhead. I didn’t know he was going to give me a head start on my xr 250, but he caught up to me real quick. We got over a couple of small mountains and hit a relatively docile dirt truck trail and he took off. Only saw him have a little trouble in a rutted muddy part of the trail. Impressed me. It was a pretty new model on a year or 2 old.
 
Well, that's just it, the new 650s are lighter than they used to be, which has me thinking about buying one... it might not be a bad compromise, since I intend to do some road cruising too in this scenic and mountainous area of southeastern Arizona. Also, there are numerous dirt roads to ride through all these nearby mountain ranges, a coworker has a 500-lb. adventure bike and he has done several different routes across local ranges, just cruisin' in the dirt and enjoying the scenic views at every turn. Imagine doing those same dirt roads & trails with a lighter and more modern 650... sounds like heaps of fun to me, and I wouldn't have to worry about riding at highway speeds with mondo vibration, heller racket, gettin' beat to death in transit, no industrial paint-shaker action on a 250, LOL. :eek:

Damn, this beer after work tastes good, and the late afternoon sun looks BAD@$$ on the crags, domes & spires of the Stronghold... my pinner Canon cam doesn't really pick up the details of those rocks, maybe I should try tweaking the zoom and going the 'Creative Shots' route for better photos, lol. Meh, I took some shots anyway, just know that there's a HUGE adult playground out there, not far from my house, and I intend to ride out there soon on a big ol' thumper, so I can start enjoying life to the fullest here in Redneck Land. I'm also thinking I might meet climbers out there, folks into doing what I used to do so often with friends back in Dago during my younger days... do some long moderate routes in due time, just for the heller views, and post pics here at this site, lol. :rolleyes:

Here we go with the pics, I wanna finish posting this so I can go watch a movie on the 65" curved screen... drink a few more beers, maybe graduate to a margarita before macking a delicious burrito plate, lol. Once I eat, it's all over, I'm thinking about crashing on ye olde rack, aye? Gotta get up early again manana, but the job is going well and I wanna keep it that way... retire from the goldurned job eight years from now, and collect over $2K per month as I kick it in the high desert & mountains of Arizona, WAHOO!!! Occasional run to Dago to go sailing, otherwise diggin' this laid-back redneck country lifestyle, LOL. Hey, I took some pics of Master Mechanic MuuMuu the Barn Kitty today in the shop, she told us about this Toro mower and what needs to be done to it... she did that by break dancing on the hood or cowl, BWAHAHAHAHA!!! o_O

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Here are the Stronghold & Dragoon pics:

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Cheesy camera doesn't do the place justice, some of those crags, domes & spires are hundreds of feet high, with difficult world-class routes on 'em, lol... meh, at my age I'll be going for the long moderate routes, just to get high on the rocks and enjoy the spectacular views. See clear into Old Mexico on a fine day, after laying my hands on some solid sun-warmed granite... geologists actually call it 'Stronghold Granite' and much of it is superior in quality, as far as technical rock climbing goes. Can't wait to get out there and do some moderate routes, nothing wrong with fresh air, sunshine and a bit of exercise... ride my thumper on the approach and on the way home, which isn't that far away, lol. Sounds like a plan, YEAH? Got a text from a dealership rep today as well, maybe he'll hook me up with that 650cc thumper pronto, WOOHOO!!! :red70:

CHEERS!!! I'M OFF TO THE FRIDGE FOR ANOTHER COLD ONE... 'BOUT TIME FOR SOME ENTERTAINMENT TOO, LOL. :whistle:
 

OLD CT

Well-Known Member
Ya sound a little angry tonight... Research a Discover Card that you put 1000 bucks in their account, ''Secured credit card''. You will build up your credito in no time. ;) After around 6 months of good payment history they send you your money back. In the form of a 1000 dollar check and tell you to keep up the good payment history. They even give you your fica score at each billing cycle. I didn't need this but a friend recently did this.
Now every credit company under the sun sends the guy junk mail....
 
Not angry... just railing against society after a few beers, lol. Thanks for the advice, I may just save up money and pay cash as usual, I was merely hoping to get some riding in this spring, since the weather is so awesome!!! But if I have to wait due to financial circumstances, that's alright, won't be the first time... "Patience is a virtue, Grasshopper!" :rolleyes:

And I still need to finish the exterior work on my home, so maybe it's all for the best. So far, I've been turned down by my bank AND a couple of dealerships, but I've been thinking about walking into one of our local banks and talking to someone there... that person may have a better appreciation of my current situation and my standing, since I work for the city and own my home free & clear. :whistle:

Meh, we'll see, in the meantime I'll hold the fort, rack up hours at work, and party while I'm off duty, lol. My job is going well, I like the crew, we have a lotta laughs throughout the day, talking about life or about equipment which needs work. Problem-solving is fun too, and some of these country boys have unusual redneck methods of getting $h!t done, LOL. Like using a loader bucket to crush a beer can, BWAHAHAHAHA!!! :confused:

Hey, check this, some law enforcement personnel are using our barn for "canine training exercises" right now as I key this post... hiding dope amid the equipment and having the dogs sniff it out, aye? Hope they collect all that cr@p when they're done, otherwise we'll have a methed-up inmate crew manana, BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Damn, I hate it when that happens... :cautious:

Might have a stoned inmate crew, which would be weird... these eightballs & convicts are already "Twilight Zone" material, I can't imagine what their head games would be like while they were stoned on chronic. The whole scene would undoubtedly be some trippy $h!t, LOL. Meh, not my problem, I'm not wearing an orange ADC suit (Arizona Department of Corrections). :eek:

Dunno how MuuMuu the Barn Kitty will take the drug-sniffing exercise... she's pretty scrappy, but probably no match for a pack of police dogs, lol. Some of those dogs are mean too, when I left I saw the K-9 Unit vehicles with warnings plastered all over 'em: "KEEP BACK!!! POLICE DOG IN VEHICLE!!!" And similar graphics... MuuMuu had better watch out, or they'll bust her @$$ for "Urinating in Public!!!" o_O

WELL, TIME TO GRAB ANOTHER COL BEER & A HOT SHOWER AFTER WORK... ANOTHER DAY, ANOTHER NICKEL, 10-4??? :LOL:

CHEERS, YOUSE HEROIC FOOLIOTS!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! :cool:
 
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