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2017 Honda Grom avail this August!
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<blockquote data-quote="69ST" data-source="post: 151588" data-attributes="member: 5"><p>Actually, Kawasaki beat Honda to the punch by a solid decade+ with the KSR110. We never got that bike here in los Estados Unidos. That kwaker has better OEM suspension, the MSX125/Grom the better engine. I was pleasantly surprised when we got this Honda, never thought that would happen. Expect sales to really take off when gasoline tops $4.50 once again. </p><p></p><p>I agree with both of you on the aesthetics. It does little for me but, it is 2016 and I accept the fact that I'm an opinionated old <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/speechless.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored:" title="Speechless :censored:" data-shortname=":censored:" /> who grew up in another era. The visual cues aren't really bad for their era. Coming up with something as iconic as the CT70 is a very tall order...</p><p></p><p></p><p>I had planned to add a Grom to the stable. Stock power is adequate, nothing wrong with a reliable 60mph bike. It's more of a stomper than the 110 Nice, a scant 0.2hp difference between them. The e-start-only and lack of versatility were negatives, but not strictly deal-breakers. Having already "out-Grommed the Grom" with the CT70 platform, stepping-down wasn't going to fly. Suspension upgrades, needed to match what I already have, would add north of 4-figures, eliminating any cost advantage. With the up-front-cost playing field leveled, what's left? The answer is rider comfort, as in "can you really use the thing?". Rider position is anything but comfy and the seat is a ball-buster. Can't, or more accurately don't want to, imagine what I'd feel like after a 100-200 mile afternoon ride. With time, talent and bucks, I reckon the seat could be improved...though it's unclear how far that could be taken, due to inherent limitations of the design. Rider position, on the other hand, is what it is. So, it largely boils down to a choice between mini-crotch-rocket vs mini-tourer. Still good to see this model succeeding in the marketplace, even if it's not my cuppa Kona :57:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="69ST, post: 151588, member: 5"] Actually, Kawasaki beat Honda to the punch by a solid decade+ with the KSR110. We never got that bike here in los Estados Unidos. That kwaker has better OEM suspension, the MSX125/Grom the better engine. I was pleasantly surprised when we got this Honda, never thought that would happen. Expect sales to really take off when gasoline tops $4.50 once again. I agree with both of you on the aesthetics. It does little for me but, it is 2016 and I accept the fact that I'm an opinionated old :censored: who grew up in another era. The visual cues aren't really bad for their era. Coming up with something as iconic as the CT70 is a very tall order... I had planned to add a Grom to the stable. Stock power is adequate, nothing wrong with a reliable 60mph bike. It's more of a stomper than the 110 Nice, a scant 0.2hp difference between them. The e-start-only and lack of versatility were negatives, but not strictly deal-breakers. Having already "out-Grommed the Grom" with the CT70 platform, stepping-down wasn't going to fly. Suspension upgrades, needed to match what I already have, would add north of 4-figures, eliminating any cost advantage. With the up-front-cost playing field leveled, what's left? The answer is rider comfort, as in "can you really use the thing?". Rider position is anything but comfy and the seat is a ball-buster. Can't, or more accurately don't want to, imagine what I'd feel like after a 100-200 mile afternoon ride. With time, talent and bucks, I reckon the seat could be improved...though it's unclear how far that could be taken, due to inherent limitations of the design. Rider position, on the other hand, is what it is. So, it largely boils down to a choice between mini-crotch-rocket vs mini-tourer. Still good to see this model succeeding in the marketplace, even if it's not my cuppa Kona :57: [/QUOTE]
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