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<blockquote data-quote="69ST" data-source="post: 152222" data-attributes="member: 5"><p>I think you're right. The only con game with more subterfuge is housing. Big-ticket items draw parasites like flies to <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/poop.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":poop:" title="Poop :poop:" data-shortname=":poop:" /> And the new vehicle market is second only to housing. "MSRP", "Destination charges", "dealer prep" etc...all nothing more than junk fees, intended to confuse the uninformed. A two-year-old machine on the showroom floor isn't a sign of a product with sale numbers setting the world on fire, is it? It'll be worth ~2/3 original "MSRP", as soon as you sign the papers. They're offering a $500 "discount":21: "MSRP" is a bullshit term..."manufacturer's <em>suggested</em> retail price". That's NOT what they paid for it. Sounds official, though, doesn't it? I'd want to see $1000 difference, on the bottom line, minimum. Your $2500 OTD figure sounds about right, imo.</p><p></p><p>Go in negotiating hard, cash in hand, ready to walk if you don't get the deal you want. Expect a phone call shortly thereafter, along the lines of "my manager said...we usually aren't able to..."</p><p></p><p>2015 model vs 2017 model...vs what can be achieved by investing the same amount into your daily rider...the bottom line spread is small. Make your decision based on what would be the most satisfying machine - to you. That 2015 specimen is going to be a $1900 bike, as soon as you sign the papers. The mount paid, in excess of that amount, would be for the privileged of getting it with, essentially, zero miles.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="69ST, post: 152222, member: 5"] I think you're right. The only con game with more subterfuge is housing. Big-ticket items draw parasites like flies to :turd: And the new vehicle market is second only to housing. "MSRP", "Destination charges", "dealer prep" etc...all nothing more than junk fees, intended to confuse the uninformed. A two-year-old machine on the showroom floor isn't a sign of a product with sale numbers setting the world on fire, is it? It'll be worth ~2/3 original "MSRP", as soon as you sign the papers. They're offering a $500 "discount":21: "MSRP" is a bullshit term..."manufacturer's [I]suggested[/I] retail price". That's NOT what they paid for it. Sounds official, though, doesn't it? I'd want to see $1000 difference, on the bottom line, minimum. Your $2500 OTD figure sounds about right, imo. Go in negotiating hard, cash in hand, ready to walk if you don't get the deal you want. Expect a phone call shortly thereafter, along the lines of "my manager said...we usually aren't able to..." 2015 model vs 2017 model...vs what can be achieved by investing the same amount into your daily rider...the bottom line spread is small. Make your decision based on what would be the most satisfying machine - to you. That 2015 specimen is going to be a $1900 bike, as soon as you sign the papers. The mount paid, in excess of that amount, would be for the privileged of getting it with, essentially, zero miles. [/QUOTE]
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