Ct70 parts
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Micah
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Indiana
OLD CT
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That is not a 1970. That is a ''K1'' made in 1972. The 125 China engine kills resale. Without the original engine in perfect working order, I wouldn't worry about original anything or the value of the bike. It is what it is. If you buy a bunch of new aftermarket parts it will still just be a restoration. You have a lot of work and especially money ahead of you to make this K1 presentable again. Right now it looks like who did it and ran. This is not a personal knock on you, just my observation of that bike.
I just spent 150 bucks for a ''envelope'' full of original parts. Starting out with a clean original paint/engine bike is always the cheapest way to preserve over spending. Rather than trying to bring back a bike that is too far gone to be a good investment in the future. Just ride it and enjoy it. Look for a better example for a investment bike.
I just spent 150 bucks for a ''envelope'' full of original parts. Starting out with a clean original paint/engine bike is always the cheapest way to preserve over spending. Rather than trying to bring back a bike that is too far gone to be a good investment in the future. Just ride it and enjoy it. Look for a better example for a investment bike.
Micah
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I have Been working on it and the bottom frame of the thing is off right now. But ok thx and I think the person who owned it before did rush it so ya and on the frame the vin is
70h-2014702 I think 70h is 1970 right?
OLD CT
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The original owner purchased that bike in 1972, it's called a ''HK1'' The matching engine # would be CT70HE-214702 plus or minus up to 500 digits apart, is acceptable from the exact match I posted according to the frame # you have. Exact matches are very rare. You do have a 4 speed H frame, that's good news! The vin tag most likely had a manufacture date of 10/71
Just scanned the registry here and it seems the build date may be closer to 1/72
Check it out some good owner info there.
Just scanned the registry here and it seems the build date may be closer to 1/72
Check it out some good owner info there.
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kirrbby
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CT70H's were made in 1970, 71 & 72
Some are HK0's (zero's), and some are HK1's
Yours is a HK1...and that is how you want to order parts,. AND describe your model of CT70.
The date that it was manufactured should be shown on the top right corner of your vin tag...it'll say 10/71 etc. to show month and year of manufacture.
But...it would be correct to say..."my bike is a HK1, built in October of 1971...when you describe your bike.
If you say that it's a 71 CT70H, I wouldn't know which MODEL that you have, because both models of the CT70H's were built in 71... HK0s early in the year, and HK1s later in the year.
OLD CT
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To answer that question, yes I recently seen a 1981 CT70 Vin tag. It has a ''HUGE 1981'' that had 10/80 mfr date on it. My green H has 10/70 on the tag but would guess it didn't make it to the US for sale in the dealer till 1971 either. They didn't air mail them! 
It is safe to say anything built in October is for the new model year...
It is safe to say anything built in October is for the new model year...
Gary
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I don't know if all Honda's are the same,I would think so but you all know how that seems to go. My Z is a black tag dated 9-69, frame and tank have a date stamp of 8 28 69, I always assumed it was a 69. Lucky my mom had always kept the paperwork knowing I'd probably loose it as a youngster. Here is what the original MSO states- 1970. But then it lists the "Corporation" as American Honda,so did they follow our normal September starts the new model year? Who knows....
kirrbby
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Honda didn't build any 1969 Z50's. They didn't build any 70 71 72 or 73 Z50's either.
But, they did build Z50's in all of those years.
They were K1 K2 K3 and K4 Z50's...
5 years, but only 4 MODELS.
Answer me this...
I have a 1970 Z50...should it have a oval badge on the gas tank, or a round one??
But, they did build Z50's in all of those years.
They were K1 K2 K3 and K4 Z50's...
5 years, but only 4 MODELS.
Answer me this...
I have a 1970 Z50...should it have a oval badge on the gas tank, or a round one??
Gary
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I think that depends of the date code of the tank and frame and the build date on the tag. But the paperwork from Honda says mine is a 70- hard to argue when their own document says what it says. If you could find the same paperwork from a early oval badge maybe it could shed some light and of course the date stamp on the tank. Obviously the powers that be weren't that concerned at the time and that's probably why the Feds got involved. What I think also complicates all this is guys selling bikes at Mecum type auctions for top dollar with no paper work and not knowing if the bikes are pieced together Frankenbikes. You know how far you'd get there trying to pass a 69 base Camaro as an COPO with no proof.
OLD CT
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I will put this out there. Applying for a title, when the DMV wants to know what year bike I have, I always tend to put the mfr date on the tag. Mine is 10/70 so I said it's a 1970 even though I had my doubts that it probably didn't hit the dealer floor till 1971.
What would you guys do?
What would you guys do?
kirrbby
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If it didn't hit the dealer floor until 1975, it would still be a K0. If they didn't sell it, or title it until 1979, it would still be a K0. If you bought it in 1979, and titled it, would you call it a 1979 CT70?
Lol...I don't know why I always want to fight this battle.
I guess if you prefer to call that 1969 K1 Z50 a 1970 Z50 that is cool with me.
But if you tell ME that you have a 1970 Z50, I will ALWAYS ask, "Is it a K1 or a K2."
I prefer my 1970 Z50's to have a foot brake, and a oval badge on the tank.
And I prefer my 1971 CT70s to have the good front shocks.
kirrbby
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I had to look back to see what the question was. My answer is that I always put the year that's on the vin tag on my CT70s that are K0-K4. But if it's one of the bikes that do NOT have a K designation...1976 and newer...then I would call it by the MODEL YEAR of the bike. In other words, I call a 1976 CT70, a 1976 CT70, even if it was built in 1975...same as Honda does.
But Honda doesn't call the earlier CT70s by the year, they call them by the K designation. The ONLY reason that Honda started using "model years" is because the US government required them to. Otherwise, a 1976 CT70, would be a K5 CT70.
But Honda doesn't call the earlier CT70s by the year, they call them by the K designation. The ONLY reason that Honda started using "model years" is because the US government required them to. Otherwise, a 1976 CT70, would be a K5 CT70.