CT70 seat

OLD CT

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Yes buy the K0 seat and store that. It's worth some bucks with that tool kit stuffed under the seat. I would leave that in it and not touch it.
Original seats with the tool kit only goes UP in value.
 

cjpayne

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Yes buy the K0 seat and store that. It's worth some bucks with that tool kit stuffed under the seat. I would leave that in it and not touch it.
Original seats with the tool kit only goes UP in value.
If I stored that seat, I would get a big ziplock type bag and store it in a cool dry place with a decassant bag.
The small tear's in the seat look repairable to me from here.
 

cjpayne

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When I had my repop seat, I had wondered if someone would take the cover off and put the big holes in the foam, like the original, it might be alot less firm.
 

OLD CT

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The hot summer sun will soften it up a little and saddle time will help. My seat foam does not feel as firm, like when it was new. I'm sure CJ if you drill holes in the foam it would probably help. I wouldn't remove the cover though. Maybe something red hot:eek: :) Like coastal rednecks big green funky toe...
 

69ST

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When I had my repop seat, I had wondered if someone would take the cover off and put the big holes in the foam, like the original, it might be alot less firm.

That might work. You've gotta know that, barring dumb luck, it probably won't be that easy. Next to handlebars, seats are a respectable second place on the deceptively complex modifications list. There's a simple reason for this...the shape of the pan. That tunnel is absolutely essential, without it, the pan would have no structural strength. Unfortunately, the underside profile is ideal for comfort, the topside profile the exact opposite...the worst possible shape. The pressure points it creates, well, think about the universal & evergreen nature of this topic.

Punching holes in the foam might give you what you're looking for. It might also turn into a failed experiment. I'll guarandamntee that Honda's product designers invested a tidy sum, doing the trial-and-error testing needed. I don't want to piss on anyone's parade. There is simply a high probability of getting less-than-hoped-for results and needing new foam to correct the situation.
 

cjpayne

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That might work. You've gotta know that, barring dumb luck, it probably won't be that easy. Next to handlebars, seats are a respectable second place on the deceptively complex modifications list. There's a simple reason for this...the shape of the pan. That tunnel is absolutely essential, without it, the pan would have no structural strength. Unfortunately, the underside profile is ideal for comfort, the topside profile the exact opposite...the worst possible shape. The pressure points it creates, well, think about the universal & evergreen nature of this topic.

Punching holes in the foam might give you what you're looking for. It might also turn into a failed experiment. I'll guarandamntee that Honda's product designers invested a tidy sum, doing the trial-and-error testing needed. I don't want to piss on anyone's parade. There is simply a high probability of getting less-than-hoped-for results and needing new foam to correct the situation.
My guess would be that if the same amount of holes, in the same location, and in the same size, it would probably be just a little firmer than an original. Thats just a guess though. Would be great if someone here had an expendable one handy and the skills of upholstery. Maybe contact the manufacturer somehow and request it be made? Kinda doubt they would even listen though.lol
 

69ST

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My guess would be that if the same amount of holes, in the same location, and in the same size, it would probably be just a little firmer than an original. Thats just a guess though. Would be great if someone here had an expendable one handy and the skills of upholstery. Maybe contact the manufacturer somehow and request it be made? Kinda doubt they would even listen though.lol
This is exactly what i mean. Your operative terms: "probably", "my guess", "if" and "maybe"...are dead-on. Do keep in mind the fact that there can be no universal "best" seat configuration, owing to personal preferences and anatomical differences. That is the predictable science of seat construction; it's educated guesswork + trial & error testing. It may be the single purest example of qualitative science involved with these bikes.

Of all the projects I've taken-on over the years, I'd never have guessed that this would be the one that would keep me stymied the longest. Improvements are certainly possible, just be prepared to invest a substantial amount of your time, as well as "putting your money where your arse is":whistle:
 

OLD CT

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There is always something to tinker with on these machines. One is never finished... It's really no comparison when you are comparing a 50 year old foam feel, to new repop. My seat does feel slightly better now than the first ride with the repop seat. Seat time helps.
 

OLD CT

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I have a repop seat pan and foam with a better cover that actually has more material ''thicker'' that feels better too. It was a ebay ''gumtoo'' cover. This is it. My bike started falling off the kickstand in the woods and the seat cover hit the buckle on my MX boots and ripped the cheapo original repo cover. The gumtoo cover is nice.


gumtoo.jpg
 
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