Kick starter not engaging??

I have both a CT-70 and a z50 and they both have a problem where if I kick it over hard sometimes it will not "engage" and it will just slip. Has anyone else here had that problem? It seems like it has a lot of "friction"...like there is some resistance, but it doesn't turn the motor over. If i try again, it make kick it over. It seems the less hard I try to kick it, then it will engage the motor easier.

What could the problem be? Thank you for the insight!

Jimmy
 

kmcrab

120cc
It could just need a clutch adjustment. If you do a search on clutch adjustment there are several threads that can walk you through it, if you don't already know. It's very easy to do.
 
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I tried doing re-adjusting it according to the manual, and it still slips. now, if I don't back it off and leave it, then it doesn't. I think the clutch is just getting wore out. Actually might help if I run the bike, I haven't been able to take it out yet. Thanks again
 
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Can one of the more knowledgable guys explain to me why it doesnt slip all the time if its a clutch problem,Im battling the same problem and want to understand whats going on before I take it apart:77:
 

fatcaaat

Well-Known Member
clutch slip

Well, usually clutch slippage is due to worn friction discs or springs that no longer exert enough force. Essentially, when these are worn, you kick the motor over and that torque causes the plates to slip.

Some of this is caused by modern day oil...they have friction modifiers in them to the point where it affects clutch performance. So, as a recommendation, I never use any car motor oil or synthetic oil in these motors....Never. If you suspect that your discs slip because you added synthetic oil or car oil, you can take the plates out and rough them up with 80 grit sandpaper or just replace them.

The other reason they slip is due to increased displacement/compression where the clutch cannot take the sudden torque brought on by kicking the engine. For motors with on this side of the spectrum, it is always best practice to get the piston to just after TDC before each kick. This will not only make your starting easier, but it will reduce the chances of you shearing off the kickstarter shaft, or stripping it.

There is always the chance that the clutch needs to be adjusted too or that the motor was sitting for so long that the plates are corroded and not up to task. If your clutch is slipping with a stock bore, adjust the clutch and if that doesn't work, you need to replace the plates and springs. If you have high compression bbk on the bike, you need to either adjust the clutch or change your kicking habits.
 
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that doesnt sound like my problem,if it slipped it would do it all the time wouldnt it,also if I put in gear and rock it back and forth it will then grab.It feels like nothing is on the shaft when it does slip
 
Yeah, it was probably caused by non 4 cycle motorcycle oil. Bike doesn't look too worn out, but it does crank over most of the time, just sometimes it will slip. I'll run it like this until I can't anymore, then fix it. Good to understand what the problem is, I appreciate your help very much

Jimmy
 
some of my bikes have clutch slip problem to and it seems as though when you first kick the bikes over after they've been sitting they slip and its almost as if the more you kick the clutch feels like it winds up and grabs more.
 
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