Painting your bike with Rattle Cans

johnsgm

Member
There was a question asked here the other day that never did get answered. Poster here was asking if anyone had any experience with a rattle can paint kit offered by a vendor here. I did not see anyone respond that they had tried the rattle can kit. I have painted with rattle cans but not the ones advertised here and I would say that in general, you can get acceptable results that look OK at a distance but not so much up close. For instance the beautiful Candy Yellow Special CT shown on the paint forum here (that bike was not painted with rattle cans or the vendor's paint BTW) is an example of a result that you can only expect from a paint gun, and a quality paint kit. Many have great results first time. Some do not. If you are only planning to build one bike I would suggest that you buy a tested quality kit such as the ones sold by Don at Vintage Honda Paint and try to find someone near you who has painted candy colors before,work the best deal you can with them.
 
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mark408

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Spray cans are what they are....I wouldn't expect results like a gun...too many variables with a can and no adjustability...although i did squirt some decent frames when i wuz a kid with the candy's and bases that Schwinn yusta sell at the bike shop.
 

hornetgod

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Dirt Bike Don's kit worked great for me. I found a local painter to shoot it for me. I would'nt "piss" can a frame and parts and expect professional results. I hope this post doesn't get deleted or altered like several have recently.
 
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I painted my Z50r with rattle cans and it turned out really well but i dont think its visually good enough for ct's. My bike is more of Rat Build not a professional restore.

Scott
 

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Dirt Bike Don's kit worked great for me. I found a local painter to shoot it for me. I would'nt "piss" can a frame and parts and expect professional results. I hope this post doesn't get deleted or altered like several have recently.

Have you been naughty again? Shame on you......
 
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a_smerek

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If done properly a rattle can certainly can give an excellent finish. I have seen many rattle can jobs that look outstanding. The real downside is how long the bike will look that way. I find the rattle can paint job quickly degrades and you are soon very sorry you chose that route

If you want a good looking paint job that lasts a long time, get it done professionally, or power coat
 

mrichard

Member
You don't need to get it done professionally or powder coat. Just use a good quality paint or paint kit. With a little experience most can paint a ct70. For 150.00 paint kit and 30.00 to beadblast the frame most with a little diy experience can paint. Even if you screw up you could always repaint it plus it's good practice. Most of the fun for me is building the bike, not paying everyone else to do it for me. If I have Mark build the engine and Rx paint the bike what have I learned? I'm sure most on here know righty tighty, lefty loosey. So other than putting a color coded wire loom in a ct70 is pretty simple. When your done you will have something you did and be much better off for the effort. I find little to rave about, in a bike that I payed someone else to build. They make excellent father/son projects or learning experiences. Plus most on this sight will try and help, even if it's just "try ebay"
 

a_smerek

Member
This is good advice mrichard. We should all try to better ourselves and learn more each day. I have a small house, it's -25°C outside, and I can't paint indoors due to fumes. The powdercoating shop 2 streets over that will do an entire bike for $75 cash with no receipt, is getting my bike. Each person has a different situation. Use what works best for you. I do as much DIY work as I can, but there comes a threshold where certain things can be had cheap enough to not worry about. For $180 I can certainly have a paint shop do a professional job, I've paid less than this for a bare CT70 to be done professionally (including blasting).
 

hornetgod

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Air compressor, paint booth, paint gun, and experience are all thing a first timer doesn't have. If you are only restoring one, it doesn't make a lot of since to spend a fortune to practice. Finding a good painter is a better option for some.
 

mrichard

Member
If you really have no tools or experience in diy why not just buy a restored bike. Much cheaper and you can still tell everyone you did it yourself as many here do. Hg if your only restoring one it makes no sense restore at all, just buy one finished. If this a hobby? and for most it is, why not learn from it and do it yourself? Maybe its just me but I see no reason to rave about what a great restoration I have if all I did was write the check. A-smerek I agree that we all can't paint in the dead of winter or some might live in apt. where they don't have the room. I understand that we all just can't do everything. If your a collector and just want a collection go buy them, I just have a personal problem with some passing off somebodies elses work as their own. Maybe I'm just pissed I can't afford to have someone else do all the work and take credit for it. Many have built beautiful bikes here, doing all the work themselves and others having sent out everything to be done by someone else. We seem to look down on the poor guy that rattle cans his bike and praise the guy that paid to have everything done. But which of the two put more work into his bike and learned the most. I painted my first bike 3 times before I was happy with it, but in the end I knew I had done the work and was happy with it. I believe Gary and his son Joe on here that rattle canned their bike and built it as a team learned more and have more pride in that bike that may not have turned out great in my eyes or RX, or Hg eyes than the guy that just wrote checks. I guess in the long run if your happy having someone else build your bike that is all that matters, as for me I'll build my own.:banplease:
 

69ST

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If you really have no tools or experience in diy why not just buy a restored bike. Much cheaper and you can still tell everyone you did it yourself as many here do. Hg if your only restoring one it makes no sense restore at all, just buy one finished. If this a hobby? and for most it is, why not learn from it and do it yourself? Maybe its just me but I see no reason to rave about what a great restoration I have if all I did was write the check. A-smerek I agree that we all can't paint in the dead of winter or some might live in apt. where they don't have the room. I understand that we all just can't do everything. If your a collector and just want a collection go buy them, I just have a personal problem with some passing off somebodies elses work as their own. Maybe I'm just pissed I can't afford to have someone else do all the work and take credit for it. Many have built beautiful bikes here, doing all the work themselves and others having sent out everything to be done by someone else. We seem to look down on the poor guy that rattle cans his bike and praise the guy that paid to have everything done. But which of the two put more work into his bike and learned the most. I painted my first bike 3 times before I was happy with it, but in the end I knew I had done the work and was happy with it. I believe Gary and his son Joe on here that rattle canned their bike and built it as a team learned more and have more pride in that bike that may not have turned out great in my eyes or RX, or Hg eyes than the guy that just wrote checks. I guess in the long run if your happy having someone else build your bike that is all that matters, as for me I'll build my own.:banplease:

IMO, it's a matter of "Different horses for different courses"

Without question, the "best of the best", from a purist perspective, is a 3-stage, true candy color,done right right, from basic metal prep through the last shot of clear, with no shortcuts. The blasting, cleaning, dent repair, filling, sanding and sprayout all have to be done meticulously. The paint system would be from a single manufacturer... formulated to be applied as a chemically-integrated, multistage, UV-stable/durable/chemical-resistant, finish. Between the amount of skilled labor involved, price of quality paint (in sufficient quantity), spray & safety equipment, plus spray facility, it's an expensive proposition. It's also not applicable to every bike project.

My only significant disagreement with what's been posted in this thread, so far, is the quoted $30 to media-blast an entire frameset. If I could get the same quality job done for that price, I'd farm them out. At current prices, it's easy to burn through $25 worth of glass bead, alone.

As for thinking that I look down at lesser refinishing jobs, please think again. The rattlecan gray father-son project mentioned in the above post is a classic example. I happen think the project is awesome, in its own right. The stated goals of that project were realized, the very definition of success. So what if it's not how I prefer to do things? It's also not my bike, son, or set of circumstances. FWIW, I appreciate what went into it, as well as someone teaching the next generation something that most of his peers will never know exists.

Bottom line: It's your bike, build it any way you think best. That's the only opinion that matters. Everything else is discussion...a.k.a. "bench racing".
 

hornetgod

Well-Known Member
I guess it's all boils down to the person collecting and restoring the motorcycle or motorcycles for that matter. I could not afford spending a large sum of money up front to buy a freshly restored gem. A little here and a little there is a much easier pill to swallow for a person on a budget. As far as spray painting goes, I spray painted all the cloud silver on two projects and I'm please, so far, with how they are holding up. I had professional painters shoot the frames on my restorations because I wanted them to look as best they could. I'm not ashamed of the results or for doing so. I put many of my own hours sourcing new or replacment parts, cleaning, polishing, disassembling, and reassembling. I appreciate my motorcycles more knowing I put the effort into them. Anyone that helped me or provided a service to assist me gets full credit including you Mike for painting an exhaust guard for me.
 

CT70Paint

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