Using All Balls Bearings

BigBird07

Member
Have any of you done a restoration using the All Balls steering bearings to replace the loose bearings?
 

bsveal

New Member
Hi BB07, I am on my 3rd Honda rebuild, 1st CT70KO, then aZ50, 74 and the one I am currently working on is a CT70HK1. I reused or added missing ball bearings on all my rebuilds, the CT70 has 42 total, 21 bottom and 21 top. It is very easy to accomplish during your rebuild process. Have the fork tree all disassembled, apply grease to the lower race, use a tweezers to drop in the clean BB's, 21 on the bottom. apply grease to the 2 races on the frame. Install the 21 BB's on the top race. Have all other parts to hold the tree in place, top race, washer, spanner nut within arms reach! Carefully install the forktree in the frame. I wouldn't do a retro fit and change out to sealed bearings. Save the $$ for other replacement parts!. Regards, bsveal
 

MSZ

Moderator
I've use the All Balls bearings for my races. 1000X better then fishing for individual ball bearings and much smoother steering. I'll never go back.
 

69ST

Well-Known Member
I've done a number of restorations and wouldn't use anything else. It took exactly one set to convince me. As Dan pointed out, you get better steering and, should you ever need to remove the fork, you'll have one less p.i.t.a to deal with. $40 may seem a little on the pricey side for one set of bearings, but it's only about $5 more than a set of top-line NTN/Koyo/F.A.G. wheel bearings. You can't go wrong investing a few extra bucks on quality safety items such as bearings, tires or brakes. No offense meant toward those who might not be of the same opinion but, in the overall process of building a bike, it's chump change.
 
Have to agree here also,last build I had real clean races so I just put in new balls,but in the past Ive used the all balls tapered set,and would highly recommend them............
 

martin_73ct

New Member
So if I understand correctly, it is possible to replace the oem bb bearings by swapping them out and repalcing them with some regular bearings?
How do you fit them in place, do you use a mallet and hammer them in?
Can someone please clarify this, i'm interested in doing this on my current restoration. Which bearings do you guys get? (ie part#)
thanks
martin
 

69ST

Well-Known Member
The "toughest" aspect of the change is the R&R of the outer races. Hammer and chisel or long drift/punch is needed to knock out the old outers. Installing the new ones requires excercising a little bit of finesse. Gently tap them in with a rubber mallet or hammer with a small wood block (no metal-to-metal contact between the races & hammer). Once each race has been driven flush with the steering tube, use a large socket that only contacts the outer edge and tap the new outer race until seated. Then pack the inners with grease, slide them into place and bolt everything back together, done...almost.

New headset bearings will usually loosen up a little after a few miles. I usually set them slightly on the snug side during initial assembly with this in mind. You will need to check for looseness periodically. One or two minor adjustments is all you should have to deal with then everything will be settled and remain tight.

You won't find them discounted anywhere, so might as well avoid needless shopping and just order them from dratv.
 

Bugandi

Member
I am needing to rebuild te forks and front end of a z50a k2 over the winter, and am thinking of using the tapered bearings for this. Will they fit or work with a z50? Have to remove all the current races? Thanks in advance for your help.
Bryan
 
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