A couple bikes that are worth a look.

Enginedoctor

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I understand it's a low mile original. But, is someone going to pay that dough 6,500 for a bike that was completely taken apart? You ''would think'' it's worth more untouched/fully assembled.
Interesting...

Agreed. i think he's a little high on the BIN, but that's why it's an auction. probably disassembled it so he could polish the paint and aluminum.

Remember those christmas special z50r's STILL IN THE CRATE that went for $50g's?? it seems the less assembly the better in terms of what collectors want to spend money on. you're not even buying a rideable motorcycle at that point… i think that one was very absurd.
 

red69

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I assumed the guy selling it has it fully assembled and just included the pre-assembly pics for clarity. I asked him about it and here is his answer:

"Yes the bike is fully assembled... the pictures were so that you could see that it was completely taken apart."

That should clear it up.
 

69ST

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OLD CT said:
I understand it's a low mile original. But, is someone going to pay that dough 6,500 for a bike that was completely taken apart? You ''would think'' it's worth more untouched/fully assembled.
Interesting...

Agreed. i think he's a little high on the BIN, but that's why it's an auction. probably disassembled it so he could polish the paint and aluminum.

Remember those christmas special z50r's STILL IN THE CRATE that went for $50g's?? it seems the less assembly the better in terms of what collectors want to spend money on. you're not even buying a rideable motorcycle at that point… i think that one was very absurd.

Both valid points...that illustrate the mixture of rational & irrational thought processes of the collector and restorer.

From a practical standpoint, $6.5K isn't all that far out for a low-mileage original, maybe 20%, give or take. There should be very little mechanical wear, so the engine & rolling chassis ought to be truly like-new, assuming the seller didn't cut corners. Body/paint work, engine rebuilding and, especially chrome, can easily top $3K combined. That still leaves a lot do. It's not hard to imagine someone paying $2500 for a low-mileage original in need of a complete cosmetic restoration. That scenario doesn't leave much of a profit margin, does it?

The only red flags I noticed are the weird rack, which is minor and the untouched speedometer, which might be a tip-off.

I get the whole "never-been-assembled"/"still-in-the-crate"/"untouched original"/"original-only-once" mindset. It's not for everyone, including me. I am far too pragmatic, I want a competent, reliable and clean bike that can be ridden. I'm not everyone, just another country heard from. The trophy case, museum, specimens have their places and actually benefit the entire scene. They more, or less, establish these bikes as a marque. Once that has occurred, what I refer to as "critical mass" has been reached. At that stage, it's relatively easy to obtain collector vehicle insurance, parts vendors can make a living and we can easily keep these things going.

So, which makes sense? IMHO, it's both and neither...a Zen riddle, of sorts...or...perhaps akin to the uncertainty principle in quantum physics. And, as with both of those examples, nailing-down an answer is only predictable within an expected range, with the answer varying, determined only in the moment by what someone is willing to pay. Beyond that, nothing much to do other than either participate in the bidding, or kick back and watch it unfold:popcorn:
 

OLD CT

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I was under the impression that the guy took it apart and was going to ship it in boxes. That speedo does look like a afterthought and suspect, purchased as nos and not on the bike 45 years. The countershaft sprocket retainer and flywheel nut is new. That's weird?
 
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69ST

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I don't know if we're talking about the same speedometer, Pat. This is the one I was referring to, it looks faded & untouched, to my eye. $_12.JPG

Not quite sure what to make of it. On the one hand, this is supposed to be super-nice low-miler that's been given a complete cosmetic restoration. OTOH, the seat also appears to be completely original, as-received. There's more than one way to view this machine. The way it's been presented, these little inconsistencies (clean as possible with select items showing "patina") kinda make you go "hmmmmmm?":39:
 

OLD CT

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I am confusing this speedo for a different bike! This speedo shows its age. Good catch. I do think this bike will hit 4500 easy, maybe 5000 to 5500 at the end. It will be interesting if someone hits B.I.N.! Not many for sale like this on the bay.
 

red69

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Three for one price:

Honda Ct | eBay

A quick glance shows the wrong fasteners on the Ruby Red Silver tag chain guard and the wrong left side crankcase cover.
 
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RustySkills

Active Member
Cool find Kirby. I contacted the seller...this one is in Phoenix close enough to me. New eBay member with no feedback and only one pic...could all okay and I might miss it but I'm going to try and talk to the seller on the phone.
 
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kirrbby

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From that one pic, I think that bike could be really nice. Almost looks like the plastic cover is still on the foot brake lever. Rubber on the hand levers still. Good seat.? Straight bars.? Only thing is it looks like the small cover on the clutch side may be painted.
 

kirrbby

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Black beauty. 711 miles
Honda Ct | eBay

Wow! Ya this one may be the REAL prize.
If you've been hoping to find a nice 78... for a G, like most of us are. You should just buy this one for 1600 and be happy.
 
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RustySkills

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I've been looking at this one on Craigslist Phoenix for a couple weeks...so far I've managed not to call as I'm sure I don't need a 78 but I want one of course. Also, Kirby, I agree the CYS H model looks like a really solid bike in that one pic and that is the original plastic on the foot brake. The seller never got back to me. I don't think it's legit.

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/mcy/5140999172.html


Rusty
 
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