Brad at Oldhonda.com

bj nick

New Member
I would like the CT70 community to know about Brad Hendon, a dealer in Texas who runs a business called Oldhonda.com. In the past several years I have had ample opportunities to form a judgment about his business ethics and commitment to service.

In 2002, I purchased a 2001 Jincheng Panda Trail Rider, which is one of the myriad Honda CT70 clones. I did now know it was a Chinese bike until it arrived, not having any experience at all in this area; I just wanted a "Minitrail 70," and it seemed like a chance to get a new one.

Nonetheless, I enjoyed riding the bike for a few months, until it stopped working. I needed a part. I informed Brad of this, and promptly, only four months later, I received the part. Four months. I was grounded for a third of the year, waiting for a simple part.

During that time I phoned or emailed him several times, asking him simply when I could expect the part to arrive. I was polite as can be. I got nothing back, until finally he sent me an irritable message stating "I ordered it. what do you want me to do?" As a result of this, the Honda dealership told me never to bring the bike back; they were disgusted and irritated at the lengthy wait for a part, which was supposed to arrive ‘any day now.’

Over the years, I ordered other parts. Brad was sometimes helpful, and if the part was in stock, it would arrive in a timely manner. But anything requiring any extra effort to locate, I would have to pester Brad to get him even to respond to me.

Early in 2005, the bike would no longer start. I was told by my local Honda mechanic that I needed a stator.

After contacting Brad, who said he’d order it for me, I waited two months for the part, and again I couldn't get him to return an email or phone call. He said he was trying to order one for me, but I couldn't pin him down on it and find out if it was going to arrive or not.

Finally, I gave up and decided that if I ever wanted to ride this bike again I’d better locate a stator on my own. Understand: I am not an experienced rider or mechanic. I didn’t grow up around bikes. I didn’t know anything about stators or anything else. I needed to rely on my dealer to help me out on this, and I got nothing.

After weeks of my own research, I thought I'd found a stator, and emailed him to ask if I should go with that one or wait for his. He sent me the following response: "Get it from them. I don't have one in stock."

That is the level of service one can expect from Brad Hendon and Oldhonda.com.

I wound up having to purchase- and return- two stators that arrived but would not fit the bike. I found out in the interim that Jincheng had gone out of business. Of course, Brad did not inform me of this or offer to help in any way in finding me an alternative.

Having finally had enough of Brad and his total disinterest in helping a customer- his customer- I wrote a letter to him, which I posted on a couple of CT70 sites, describing my experiences with Brad in great detail. Brad immediately wrote back to me, apologizing profusely for what had happened, and offering to help me find the stator. Being a trusting soul, and because he sounded so sincere,- I responded that I’d take down the messages, and give him the chance to help me.

Brad, in the three months since I got his apology, has done absolutely nothing to help. He said he’d call and look around, and maybe he did, but he did not keep me in the loop, or stay in contact with me or anything like that. When I finally sent an exasperated message to him, reminding him he said he’d help me, he responded

"I promised to let you know if I locate one from one of my sources. I have

not located one as of right now."

That was it; nothing else. In other words, I could sit and wait till the next ice age. If he happened to find one, he’d let me know. I never heard from him again. I have not gotten a single message from him, not a phone call, nothing.

Realizing- at long last- that I could expect nothing from this man, I finally, after 10 months of trying, located a stator, which my mechanic installed, and the bike is now operable again. How is it that I- who have only the barest knowledge of min-bikes, was able to locate the stator, while Brad, who runs a dealership and presumably is an expert in these bikes- couldn’t find one with a reasonable effort? The answer is obvious: he wasn’t willing to expend the least effort in trying to help me out.

Since when does a dealer sell you a bike and then ignore you when a needed part requires a little effort to locate? Isn't that what a reputable dealer does? Isn’t that how they stay in business? Apparently this doesn’t apply to Oldhonda.com. I can certainly understand if a part is out of stock, or difficult to locate, or if the company went out of business, or whatever. Things happen. But what I would expect from a dealer- especially the dealer who sold me the bike- is something like this: "Mr. Nitikman, sorry it’s taking so long. I will make some calls this morning and get right back to you." And then do it. And then "Mr. Nitikman, I am going to research this and find you a stator, and I will keep you posted how it’s going. Don’t worry; I will do everything in my power to help you get running again."

I am posting this message on any and all CT70 forums I can find, so that the community can be aware of the problems I had and avoid doing business with Brad Hendon.

 

69ST

Well-Known Member
Sorry to hear about your bad experience. Most PRC bikes go by the boards after a few months, supplanted by another "brand name". Jincheng is actually one of the better repop bikes out there. I don't believe JC went out of business, their bikes just haven't been imported into this country for a while. More likely, it was a matter of lower priced lookalikes. The JC bikes retailed for around $1600 & up. Jincheng is actually Suzuki of China. Seems doubtful that they'd fold up the tent. There's only one dealer I know of who supplies JC parts and he's located in the UK. If you're stuck, you can send me a P/M message, I may be able to assist.

The parts supply problem is the rule rather than the exception with PRC repop bikes. These are sold on the basis of price so something has to give. It costs money to support a network of dealers and replacement parts as well as building things to a high quality standard. However, there's absolutely no excuse for dishonesty/rudeness from a selling dealer :mad: .
 
FYI in future cases a genunine Honda 12 volt stator will interchange with almost all chinese clone engines as long as they are kick start.
I had my stator crap out on my XR-70 with the Zongshen 108 engine and I took the stator assembly off the Original Honda XR-70 engine and it works perfectly.
:monkey:
 

NorCalCT70

New Member
I am new to this forum , But not new to the CT70's I have had a similar experience with "BRAD". I bought a complete front end from brad off of one of his parts bikes a 74 CT70. After a month of nothing I gave him a call , I was told that he would check on it etc. Well long story short , Three months later and still nothing , I told him to drop the front end search and send me some small misc. parts that I need in the amount of the money that I spent for the front end. Well you guessed it still a month later no misc. parts and 4 or five month from the original front end deal , oh and not a phone call from him ever , my wife got a call at the house in the middle of the day ,when I was at work (pretty smart) and told her the I would be getting a refund.

*** Dont deal with this guy *** Brad @ oldhonda.com is a con

NorCalCT70
 

topct

New Member
I found this thread doing a search on Google for Old Honda. It was about number four on the list of results.

Here is my experience with "Brad".

Needed a gasket set and an intake valve for a Trail 70. Also thought I'd see what the case screw sets looked like.

Sent a Postal money order with a list of the parts and included the shipping charges as per phone call to Brad.

Two weeks went by, money order cashed, and no parts. Called Brad. He says he sent them but they must have gotten lost. He said to give a few more days and if they didn't show up he would either give me a refund or try shipping them again.

Okay, stuff happens. But in this case no parts showed, so a call to Brad and he says he will send them out again and send me a tracking number for UPS.

Got the tracking number right away but they were not yet scanned into the system. It took ten days for UPS to get them and they arrived according to UPS's schedule.

Only one problem. Wrong parts. Got a gasket set and valve for Trail 90 instead of Trail 70.

Call Brad. He looks at my list and says he though the order was for 90 parts. The list had his number for the Trail 70 gaskets and the screws. The number for the valve is the same identifier he uses for all his valves no matter what engine?

So he then says he will send the right parts out.

Again a major wait for them to get to UPS but they finally did arrive.

But here we have another mess up. Right gaskets but wrong valve.

I had told Brad that when I got the right parts I would gladly send the wrong ones back.

I will not. Never. I'm keeping about $55 dollars worth of his parts.

This has been a royal pain. Over two months of phone calls and waiting on to be frustrated by this idiot.

Any one haveing anything to do with this smuck is going to be sad I'm afraid.

For what it's worth I used to sell motorcycle parts from in back of the counter and over the phone. Anyone who has ever done this knows that sometimes somethings can go wrong. Nothing and no one is perfect, but I always tried to improve the situation.

This guy just doesn't seem to care.
 
Hi,
NorCal ct70, where are you located? I'm in Vacaville, Ca. I saw
your piece about Brad and it's good to have a place like this to find
out about "bad Honda people".

Thanks, Paul H.
 

Evan Guy

New Member
I was organizing some old files to prepare for tax time, when I ran across correspondence with Brad Hendon. Then I 'googled' his name and found you guys.

I just now registered here to give you guys the low-down. Brad Hendon is an ABSOLUTE LIAR!! He's the lowest of the low in his business dealings! Several years ago, I bought his junk and have a horrifying tale of being jacked around, lied to, and thieved!! And back then, I ranted on a message board that I frequently use and ANOTHER member of the board (not related to old Hondas) came forth with an EVEN WORSE story.....the guy is a FREAKING LIAR AND A CROOK!!.......Beware!!.....Thanks, Evan Guy
 
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Why doesn't someone report him to the BBB? Maybe the authorities could shut the bastard down so he doesn't screw someone else out of their money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad:
 

fatcaaat

Well-Known Member
My experience...

in 2002, I was just getting back into the CT70 after selling them so I could buy books in college. This seller had listing a 1973 Turquiose ct70 in complete condition that "turned over", the lights worked, but didn't start.

I think I paid $750 plus shipping to Columbus Ohio. When it arrived, it was obviously not in nearly the condition it was stated. Pictures were taken to obviously disguise the overall condition of the bike.

I got the bike, very excited mind you, tried to give it a kick...nothing...locked! I thought that maybe some water gotten into the cylinder (after all there was no plug) so I squirted some marvel mystery oil in there for a few days...nothing.

Communications went out and never came back...finally got one that said "you bought a 25+ year old bike, what did you expect?" I learned a lot with that bike and one thing I learned was never to speak to this joker again. NEVER do business with this guy...
 

ST90

New Member
I had ordered & paid for some parts from brad a while back & got the same runaround as above....oh I shipped it, it must have got lost...I'll send another...etc. I lost my patience with him & told him he was so full of s**t his eyes are brown. I did finally get my money back but it took months. Don't deal with this clown!
 
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