Candy Sapphire Blue. Paint Code

CrownRoyal59

CrownRoyal59

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I am looking for the paint code for Candy Sapphire Blue. I have a K2 1971 and want to figure out
how to get the right paint. My local auto body supply house told me to get him a code ?

I live in Canada and shipping paint across the border is not simple these days so want to buy locally

Thanks for the help

Larry / Crown Royal
 
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69ST

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There are no paint codes, never were. K2 & K3 were available in "Candy Topaz Orange" and "Candy Riviera Blue". Neither of those colors is the same as their HK0 counterparts. "Candy Riviera Blue" is closest to "Candy Blue-Green"...but contains more teal/green tint and the final color value is less saturated, as-applied. A pro paint supply should be able to figure out the candy midcoat, using an unfaded portion of your frameset as a color sample. The rest is up to the painter controlling the application.
 
CrownRoyal59

CrownRoyal59

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CrownRoyal59 said:
I am looking for the paint code for Candy Sapphire Blue. I have a K2 1971 and want to figure out
how to get the right paint. My local auto body supply house told me to get him a code ?

I live in Canada and shipping paint across the border is not simple these days so want to buy locally

Thanks for the help

Larry / Crown Royal
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CrownRoyal59

CrownRoyal59

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racerx said:
There are no paint codes, never were. K2 & K3 were available in "Candy Topaz Orange" and "Candy Riviera Blue". Neither of those colors is the same as their HK0 counterparts. "Candy Riviera Blue" is closest to "Candy Blue-Green"...but contains more teal/green tint and the final color value is less saturated, as-applied. A pro paint supply should be able to figure out the candy midcoat, using an unfaded portion of your frameset as a color sample. The rest is up to the painter controlling the application.
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What hoping for PPG code 251 ?
A little complicated than I thought. My bike paint is fade rank was redone So they can’t get a good colour match I am told
 
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69ST

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No idea, I don't use PPG paint system. Understand that candy colors are a world unto themselves. It's the layer of transparent color, applied over a metallic base coat, that produces the effect. Thus, application is nearly as critical as getting the tint right. It's even possible to create the color you want by applying blue candy over a green metallic base. IOW, true candies are very much the painter's art, application matters that much.

You begin by applying the metallic base, directly over the primer. Then, the candy midcoat is applied, in thin...perfectly even...coats until the desired color saturation is "developed". Finally, the job gets protected with clearcoat. I recommend searching youtube for video instruction on candy colors. Jon Kosmoski is considered the father of candy paint.

As for the seat pan, it's just medium gloss black enamel. Rattlecan paint will suffice. Your tail light bracket should be chrome plated.

As for color samples...how about the frame near the seat latch, under the tank decals, or sidebadges?
 
scooter

scooter

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If you give me till the weekend I had ppg samples and put them up against various frames that I had (used good paint sections from under the decal as the standard). I can go back into my notes and let you know what I thought. I remember giving things a grade, one or two were pretty close and I remember one was blue but not sure what shade

Can you confirm which bike model and color you want to match. Not sure if you want original k2 candy riviera blue or the K0 sapphire blue.
 
airblazer

airblazer

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Mazda’s “sky blue mica” PPG code: 41B sky blue pearl seems really close for not being a true candy. GM Laguna Blue G7H / WA135X also seems close.
I’ve done double takes when I’ve seen Mazda 3’s and Ford Fiesta’s in that blue because it looks so close to Candy Sapphire Blue. But if you want the real deal, I know a guy...
 
CrownRoyal59

CrownRoyal59

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racerx said:
No idea, I don't use PPG paint system. Understand that candy colors are a world unto themselves. It's the layer of transparent color, applied over a metallic base coat, that produces the effect. Thus, application is nearly as critical as getting the tint right. It's even possible to create the color you want by applying blue candy over a green metallic base. IOW, true candies are very much the painter's art, application matters that much.

You begin by applying the metallic base, directly over the primer. Then, the candy midcoat is applied, in thin...perfectly even...coats until the desired color saturation is "developed". Finally, the job gets protected with clearcoat. I recommend searching youtube for video instruction on candy colors. Jon Kosmoski is considered the father of candy paint.

As for the seat pan, it's just medium gloss black enamel. Rattlecan paint will suffice. Your tail light bracket should be chrome plated.

As for color samples...how about the frame near the seat latch, under the tank decals, or sidebadges?
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No my bike is has a black trail light bracket it a 71 build 9/70 on the serial number
 
CrownRoyal59

CrownRoyal59

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scooter said:
If you give me till the weekend I had ppg samples and put them up against various frames that I had (used good paint sections from under the decal as the standard). I can go back into my notes and let you know what I thought. I remember giving things a grade, one or two were pretty close and I remember one was blue but not sure what shade

Can you confirm which bike model and color you want to match. Not sure if you want original k2 candy riviera blue or the K0 sapphire blue.
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My Bike build date is 9/70
 
CrownRoyal59

CrownRoyal59

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airblazer said:
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Mazda’s “sky blue mica” PPG code: 41B sky blue pearl seems really close for not being a true candy. GM Laguna Blue G7H / WA135X also seems close.
I’ve done double takes when I’ve seen Mazda 3’s and Ford Fiesta’s in that blue because it looks so close to Candy Sapphire Blue. But if you want the real deal, I know a guy...
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I have two guys. 1 I know can go it he does restores but he is 750. 2 My buddies hobby is building cars he paint. He will do it for costs and I will help him ?? That why I wanted to find a paint code
 
kirrbby

kirrbby

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So for 750 you'll get to demand perfection/quality. For 300 you'll get whatever you end up with. But either guy is going to need a sample to use as a reference.
With solid color paint, you spray the color, and the color is preset...done.
With candy, you spray only until you reach the desired color...too little, and it's wrong...too much, and it's wrong. You have to know what is RIGHT to have a chance of matching it.
 
kirrbby

kirrbby

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The 750 guy may handle the paint code decision, then show you a sprayout for your approval.
Otherwise, I'd remove the badges from your frame and take the frame into the paint supply store. Let a pro pick the color. They will be able to recognize the correct shade of blue, and the correct base color and flake. But then it'll be up to the guy spraying the paint to know when the correct depth of color has been reached. You'll want to do a sprayout while you still have good paint on the frame to compare it too. Then you can say..."OK, 4 coats of candy looks right" AND, then you'll HAVE that sprayout sample to compare to, as you paint.
 
scooter

scooter

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So I pulled out my ppg samples and tried to follow your ppg 251 reference. The samples I have give me the base and candy which are slightly different depending on base color
 

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