Ct70h cylinder head comp.

Silentshredr

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Picked up a 70 ct70h some time ago and will be soon rebuilding the engine to kickstart the project. The spark plug hole has been oversized by the previous owner to 12mm and it's still nearly stripped. Question is will a 91-94 12v head work with my current piston and cylinder? All of my parts I have from other builds tend to be of the 12v variety. Is a vintage head a better idea to retain value since it's a h model? If so I'll try and source one. I plan to keep this bike stock as possible, it will be a rider. Thanks for the input in advance.
 

OLD CT

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69 to 81 heads are called ''old dome'' and are the only years that will work as a swap for you. 82 and up are ''new dome'', and will not work.
 

69ST

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Not being a contrarian here...

It is possible to use a ball bearing (a.k.a. 12v) head on a K0-`81 motor. But, it's a can of worms...and then some. You'd need either a custom piston, to match the 6v (short rod) compression height and the smaller combustion chamber of the 12v head, or a 12v crank...along with the entire alternator assembly, CDI, wiring conversion, bulbs & battery. Sound a little expensive and nightmarish? For a stock-type rebuild, it is.

First step is a complete teardown, so that you can figure out exactly what this motor needs. It'll probably need new shift forks, in addition to the usual stuff (timing chain, roller, idler, tensioner cap, gaskets, seals etc) and there's a chance that the crank is worn. Anything beyond ~0.018" side clearance at the big end of the rod, any radial slop that can be felt, or any looseness that can be felt at the small (wrist pin) end and the crank should be rebuilt, or replaced. It may be possible to rebuild a 6v crank, using a 12v rod...but...IDK if the crankpin diameters are the same and that's critical. Fact is, H-model rebuilders get a lucky break, $70 repop cranks from dratv, less than half the cost of a crank rebuild.

Frankly, for a stock rebuild, I'd want to repair the head, if possible. There's a good chance that there's still enough metal to use an M12 Timesert. I'm not fond of using a 12mm plug in these but, at this stage it'd be clean, inexpensive, and the threads much tougher than the aluminum casting. If there's not enough metal left, the spark plug hole could be welded, then re-machined...back to the original M10 x 1.0; that's strictly pro work, requiring both a machinist and a skilled welder. I'd estimate $70+/-, all-in. That'd preserve the original casting numbers...if you're a purist. If not, any K0(`69) through `81 CT70 head can be used, plug & play. And those are not rare.
 

kirrbby

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The 90's head would work, but you'd have to buy the correct piston. The piston has to be made to work with the old crank, and the newer head. They're available...dratv has them. And others.
The cylinder will work too.
 

Silentshredr

New Member
Lots of info, appreciate it. I'll just save the 12v stuff for the next bike and source a new head with the other needed items I run into with the tear down.
 
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