Dax question
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The market for Daxes is global, even more so than the CT70. The US portion is comparatively small, because the bike was never sold here, leaving it relatively unknown. I've seen prime examples bring CT70 money: it's the marketing that's less predictable. I've only seen that front end used on JDM bikes and those are unobtainium rare in the west. Plus, it's 50...rarer still. I've never seen that color used on any model besides a CT70HK0, or K2/K3...a little hard to know how accurate the color rendition is on my screen, with that photo, and going through the various servers in-between. It looks like some version of CTO.
It's definitely NOT a `69-`70; that front end didn't exist until late `71 and I've never seen it factory-installed on an `80-later Dax. I believe that the decals are `79; I've seen them on one other ST70 that was painted a different color; it was an EU-spec machine. Also, AFAIK,the ST model designation went bye-bye in 1980, when the model designation was changed to "AB23". The VIN should tell you the D.O.M. & model. Information on JDM model specs has been and remains limited to what a few of us have carefully compiled over the last 20 years, or so.
That'd be one cool bike to restore. All of the unobtainium bits are there and everything looks straight. You'd certainly never pass another one being ridden in the opposite direction!
It's definitely NOT a `69-`70; that front end didn't exist until late `71 and I've never seen it factory-installed on an `80-later Dax. I believe that the decals are `79; I've seen them on one other ST70 that was painted a different color; it was an EU-spec machine. Also, AFAIK,the ST model designation went bye-bye in 1980, when the model designation was changed to "AB23". The VIN should tell you the D.O.M. & model. Information on JDM model specs has been and remains limited to what a few of us have carefully compiled over the last 20 years, or so.
That'd be one cool bike to restore. All of the unobtainium bits are there and everything looks straight. You'd certainly never pass another one being ridden in the opposite direction!
kirrbby
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kirrbby
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Is it any coincidence that the bikes with the ugliest decals are the hardest ones to find?
This looks close.
http://japan.webike.net/moto_news/honda-dax-st50/
This looks close.
http://japan.webike.net/moto_news/honda-dax-st50/
These aren't my fav-O-rite but IDK that I'd consider them ugly, either. Those honors fall to the `80-later versions :31: and, you're right, they are hard to find. Murphy was an optimist.
loatflyer
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I have just finished a restoration 1969 ST50G .It is a model that was shipped to the German market only. Stickers are in German, kind of cool .
The bike was in fair condition but had sat for 10 + years without running so I rebuilt the engine, clutch, & painted the cases, etc..
The original carb was corroded pretty badly and unusable so ordered a carb from a guy in Germany off of EBay and it works beautifully. Because these models are so rare in North America you'll have to get specific ST50 parts from Europe but the engine components, gaskets, seals, piston.. etc are compatible with a z 50 engine and some CT70 parts are the same (non engine)
The bike I have fortunately has all the proper original components on it. speedo in KMS per hr. Pic attached is before the engine overhaul and paint.
On to the next one I guess.
Great site !!!!!!!
The bike was in fair condition but had sat for 10 + years without running so I rebuilt the engine, clutch, & painted the cases, etc..
The original carb was corroded pretty badly and unusable so ordered a carb from a guy in Germany off of EBay and it works beautifully. Because these models are so rare in North America you'll have to get specific ST50 parts from Europe but the engine components, gaskets, seals, piston.. etc are compatible with a z 50 engine and some CT70 parts are the same (non engine)
The bike I have fortunately has all the proper original components on it. speedo in KMS per hr. Pic attached is before the engine overhaul and paint.
On to the next one I guess.
Great site !!!!!!!
loatflyer
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1969 ST50 G German model
Great site !!!
Here's a pic of my 1969 Honda ST50G , I have just restored.
It was a model made for the German market only , stickers are in German and speedo in KM/Hr. on early models Speedo should be rectangular not round like a ct70.
Bike had been sitting in an enclosed trailer for 10+ yrs without running. Rebuilt engine, clutch, etc. Specific parts are hard to find so had to look in Europe where they are popular.New carb from Germany eBay works awesome.
Engine parts are common to North America z50 engine parts and things like air cleaner and frame parts are common to CT70.I was fortunate that it had mostly original & proper parts on it.
The plug on the stator is totally different to a z50 or ct70.
Pic below is before I rebuilt the engine.
On to the next one ..........
Great site !!!
Here's a pic of my 1969 Honda ST50G , I have just restored.
It was a model made for the German market only , stickers are in German and speedo in KM/Hr. on early models Speedo should be rectangular not round like a ct70.
Bike had been sitting in an enclosed trailer for 10+ yrs without running. Rebuilt engine, clutch, etc. Specific parts are hard to find so had to look in Europe where they are popular.New carb from Germany eBay works awesome.
Engine parts are common to North America z50 engine parts and things like air cleaner and frame parts are common to CT70.I was fortunate that it had mostly original & proper parts on it.
The plug on the stator is totally different to a z50 or ct70.
Pic below is before I rebuilt the engine.
On to the next one ..........
Nice bike. This machine is ~90% CT70 K0 and those parts are easily sourced in North America. The HL shell is similar to the late CT90/110; those bikes had the trapezoidal speedometer configuration. Your speedo is unobtainium rare. Some other non-CT70 parts can be sourced domestically, too. That heel/toe shifter was used on a number of other models, including the Cub. Dratv & NEVC usually have them in stock. The fenders, lower fork legs, footrest assembly, shocks & tail light assembly are more, or less, unique to the type I Dax and mostly have to be sourced from across the pond. Somewhat surprisingly, the fenders & fork legs can be had new, as NOS, or reproductions.
The list of hard-to-find parts is rounded-out by the tail light assembly, brake pedal, decals and...transmission shift drum. No North American spec CT70 ever had the 1D/2U shift pattern. And, there was never a CT50 version.
The list of hard-to-find parts is rounded-out by the tail light assembly, brake pedal, decals and...transmission shift drum. No North American spec CT70 ever had the 1D/2U shift pattern. And, there was never a CT50 version.
loatflyer
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Thanks for the information , very much appreciated.
Can you confirm for me ? ...the headlight bucket on this one is plastic with a seam or parting line on the top surface ? would this be the original ?
being an injection moulding guy, I would have thought they would have made these out of metal back in the late 60's?
the headlight assy has a bulb but it is soldered together (looks like factory) so you cant access the bulb
Thanks again for the info Garrison
Can you confirm for me ? ...the headlight bucket on this one is plastic with a seam or parting line on the top surface ? would this be the original ?
being an injection moulding guy, I would have thought they would have made these out of metal back in the late 60's?
the headlight assy has a bulb but it is soldered together (looks like factory) so you cant access the bulb
Thanks again for the info Garrison
They were plastic. I've only seen one that was diecast metal and am pretty sure that it was aftermarket.
The HL bulb is a sealed beam unit. Those were a legal requirement in some markets, at that time. FYI, they don't work all that well and have become painfully expensive to replace. There are aftermarket "offroad" reflector assemblies available, that fit your HL shell; these use $4 replaceable bulbs.
The HL bulb is a sealed beam unit. Those were a legal requirement in some markets, at that time. FYI, they don't work all that well and have become painfully expensive to replace. There are aftermarket "offroad" reflector assemblies available, that fit your HL shell; these use $4 replaceable bulbs.