Did I score or what?

Discussion in 'CT70 Reproductions' started by Waveraider, Jan 23, 2015.

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  2. Adam-NLV

    Adam-NLV Well-Known Member

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    Wow, 4-speed Auto, electric start, Front disk brake, deluxe hand controls, these clones are getting better & better. I would say Yep, good score...for a turn key ride.
    Is that a 110? looks too big to be a 72cc.
     
  3. Dezdan

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    125cc! :43:
     
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    lol, yep only the 72cc manual had the 4 speed.:10:

    I would change the pipe to a old-school CT70 pipe for better breathing, more top speed.
     
  5. Waveraider

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    I wondered about the exhaust. I'll know more tomorrow after I get it home. Spoke to someone at the shop a little while ago and she was very nice and said they will have it ready for me. Thought they might be a little upset, because they had a buy it now for $1095. Saw this in their shop last April for $1195 and thought about buying it. Glad I held off. :1:
     
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    Also, any idea how fast a 125cc run? I'm hoping for a cruise speed of around 40 MPH w/ a top speed or 50 MPH.
     
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    Unless you're over 300lbs, I don't think that will be a problem!
     
  8. Waveraider

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    190 lbs, but I'm planning on losing a few lbs... :)
     
  9. Waveraider

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    Got home a few hours ago. Rode it at the shop and it seemed to run fairly well. Unloaded it at home, and it woldn't start. Horsed around and finally I realized the kill switch was off! Anyway, I rode it a few times around the neighborhood and the only thing I can find wrong with it is the turn signals don't work. Fronts both flash at the same time like emergancy lights and the right rear flashes real dim. Should be an easy fix.

    Anyway, here's a pic of me on it at home.

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  10. red69

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    Looks nice. Good luck with it.

    One question. How did you upload the large picture?

    Bob
     
  11. Adam-NLV

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    Glad it worked out. Breaking in a new engine is a important process so you may want to research the subject for best results. The bike looks good but the frame looks bare with out a decal. You can apply one of your choice if you want. Here's a web site that has all of em. http://www.knkcycles.com/hondaCT70.html
     
  12. Waveraider

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    Red69. I did it on my Picturetrail.com account.

    Adam. I've been looking at frame decals for the last week and trying to make up my mind which one I want. Nice problem to have. :)

    :Edit:

    Today, I put my extra CT70 front fender on and cut off half of the rear plastic fender. Looks more like a real CT70 already. My fender wasn't as nice as I remembered, but looks OK. Also, those little stock street tires don't look so bad once everything is lifted out of the way, but before too long I'll put on the Michelin Reggae 120/90's that I already have. Can't wait to get the frame decals!

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    Don't know how I missed this. Yes it will cruise at 40 and top end will be over 50. Great score Have some fun with it.
     
  14. racerx

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    Upsizing the tires this much, over stock, will affect gearing & speedo/odo accuracy. Most 110-125cc clones seem to be delivered a bit under-geared; if yours is one of them, the taller rear tire may come with the bonus of better-optimized gearing. If not, sprockets are easy enough to swap. 110cc is what I consider the minimum "price of admission" for a reasonably competent suburban cruiser...capable of accelerating with traffic, dealing with modest grades and headwinds without dropping below ~45mph-50mph. The terrain around Indy is pretty flat and there are plenty of 2-laners, just outside town...ideal cruising territory for a mild-110cc tune. As the miles accumulate, however, you may want to test out a few different sprocket combos to get absolutely optimal gearing. At this power/torque level, there's little surplus to leave untapped. Trust me, 3mph at sustained cruising speed, can be significant. Correcting less-than-optimal gearing is like free horsepower.

    If your speedo/odo are off by more than about 5%, that is likely to be a problem and there's no practical way to change the ratio of a mechanical speedo drive. If yours was intended for use with a 3.50x10 tire, I'd expect it to come up more like 12% short, with a 120/90x10. A "stingy" (slow-reading) speedometer is not your friend. Of course you can always change over to a user-programmable electronic speedo. I've even seen a few units that will swap directly into your headlight shell and they're expensive.

    As for decals, that's up to you and there are lots of choices. My recommendation (worth what you've paid for it:21:) would be the classic "Honda stripe"...aka K0 tank decals. They're instantly recognizable and will give your clone a heavy dose of OEM flavor...if that's what you like.
     
  15. Waveraider

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    Thanks for the advise on the gearing. It seems like it revs fairly high in 4th gear, so I don't think the bigger tires will be an issue. I've, only ran it fast for a few seconds, so I don't think I could have hurt it during the break-in period. Still has less than 10 miles on it, and I doubt I will ride I again for a few month's until the weather warms up.

    As for the stripe's, I thought about the K1 with the Red Block "Trail 70" lettering below Honda, but am now leaning twards the K0 stripe.

    I also plan on painting it a classic CT70 color, but that will be after I finish one or two of CT70's I have.
     
  16. racerx

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    Once you get it broken-in and start riding some distances, getting the gearing dialed-in will pay you back in ways that aren't obvious at this early stage. As-delivered gearing isn't necessarily optimized for road cruising. A lot of them have been waaaaaay off, more like they were intended for offroading only. Trust me, just slowing engine rpm by 300-500rpm at 50mph makes a big difference after only a few miles of cruising at that speed. You may be looking at 1K rpm, or more, reduction...the equivalent of adding another gear, for cruising.

    Fully broken-in and tuned (carb setup) these engines should be able to run along at 7-8000rpm, for miles on end. I think you'll come to prefer having 4th act like an overdrive/cruising gear. Ask me how I know...
     
  17. Waveraider

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    Couldn't help myself!

    Kinda bored today, so I was out in the garage looking at the bike glanced at the Reggae's and thought what the heck. Wasn't planning on changing tires until I had at least 100 miles on it, but it's going to be all street use anyway. Looks pretty good. Here's before and after pics. Still doesn't look right w/o the decals...

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    That's a good lookin machine. The new tires DO look better too. I think I would paint the big shiny exhaust guard black tho, at least part of it. It seems to draw too much attention and it glares Chinese.
     
  19. Waveraider

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    Installed the K0 decals over the weekend. Looks much better!

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