Unmolested CEG 1971 HONDA CT70 HK0 928 mi.

Adam-NLV

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Here we go a CEG 4speed in Riverside Ca. With gas as low as it is, a drive to Cali isn't out of the question for me.
$1k start price. I wonder what his bottom line is for her?

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cjpayne

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This looks to be an EXPENSIVE one. It's a beautiful, original, low mileage H!!! If this is what it appears to be, IMHO, $2500-$3000 would be a bargain.

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Enginedoctor

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Very nice bike… but MORE TIRE SHINE! HAHAHA… cycle obsessions? please. who are these people that think it's a good idea to do that?

i'm sure this one will go for some serious cake. that last k0h that wasn't original or candy green was in the mid 2's then the auction stopped… this one might fetch a bit more.
 

cjpayne

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Very nice bike… but MORE TIRE SHINE! HAHAHA…
The brand new Bridgestone's on my HK1 actually shine like that. I think the one's on this bike are just squeaky clean or your right ED. Is kinda hard to tell for me. I had to look twice after reading your post.
 

Enginedoctor

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i'm hedging a bet that they're not brand new. i had to use the zoom function to arrive at my 'assumption.' I think he hit the gators and the tires with Armor all. The gators, i have no problem with. but they also don't provide traction.

If someone was crazy enough to buy this bike and ride it offroad, it wouldn't really matter. but 44 years after production, and it still looks that good, i wouldn't dream of taking it on anything other than a well manicured grass field.

Speaking of slippery stuff, i'm pretty sure the inventor of this got his idea from armor-all…
[video=youtube;TQtg7SvM5Qc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQtg7SvM5Qc[/video]
 
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CTKing

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This bike just sold a couple weeks ago in San Diego and the original owner was asking 2200. I found it on craigslist and emailed the guy right away. Unfortunately for me when he contacted me back it was on. Monday and I was at work. So needless to say I lost out on this beauty. The original seat was torn and the bike appears to have been cleaned up a bit but it looks to be very nice. I would imagine if he paid the asking price of 2200 and put some money and time into it he's probably asking north of 3000. I will be watching to see what I had missed out on.
 

69ST

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First thing that jumps-out is the puckered seat cover, that draws the eye for a closer inspection. Non-original but, not a deal-breaker either. The speedo face matches the paint...both are remarkably un-faded...and both occupy top slots on the list of most fade-prone CT70 items. Judging by the clearly visible chips & scratches, this one's been presented honestly, imho.

Enginedoctor said:
Very nice bike… but MORE TIRE SHINE! HAHAHA… cycle obsessions? please. who are these people that think it's a good idea to do that?
cjpayne said:
The brand new Bridgestone's on my HK1 actually shine like that. I think the one's on this bike are just squeaky clean or your right ED. Is kinda hard to tell for me. I had to look twice after reading your post.
That's armor-all, or equivalent. I've never had a set of `Wings arrive with that kind of wet gloss. New, they have a dusty/powdery appearance, from residual mold release compound. That is further accented/punctuated with ink stampings and plastic labels...that leave snot-like glue in their wake. IMO, they don't photograph well.

I'm not a fan of using Armor-all on bike tires, for reasons previously mentioned. That said, I wouldn't call the practice detestable in an instance such as this nice CEG bike...the seller wasn't trying to polish a turd. It should only be applied to the sidewalls...imho, but then there's one helluva stark contrast with the tread. Fork gators are a legit application, maybe a good thing as it does preserve rubber. Of course it also grabs dust, turning coated parts into "Shake`n Bake".
 

CTKing

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We'll I contacted the seller and at first he was hesitant to admit it was the bike I saw on CL but he came around. Of course I struck a deal and just drove 100 miles each way to pick her up. He got a sweet deal at $1700 and as you would imagine I had to pay few hundred more then the auction price to get her. Over all the bike is nice but will need the usual things to make it run much better. In my opinion it will also need a good cleaning but I know many might frown at that. So out to the garage I go to start the fun.
 

Adam-NLV

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Congrats!

Let me be the first to congratulate you on this outstanding CEG HK0 CT70 (example) model. I must say; I admire your perseverance.
So the ending auction price of $2225.00 was the max bid with a reserve not met ending. I'm thinking you added another 3bills? Just curious.

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I was watching the 'Jay Leno's Garage' show on MSNBC and there is starting to be a new category of show-cars called Preservation Class Cars. It seems that this may be more desirable than concourse and more valuable. I suspect the motorcycles will follow this suit, just something for you to think about. Here's a little more;


'The old car hobby is headed in the direction of the fine art, decorative arts, and antique furniture markets, where a premium is placed on originality and where refinishing or altering a well preserved example can have a negative effect on value. "

So sometimes leaving 'as is' flaws and all, is starting to gain popularity. I kinda like that.
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Anyway have fun tuning and polishing it up, take some pics if you get a chance.
 
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CTKing

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So sometimes leaving 'as is' flaws and all, is starting to gain popularity. I kinda like that.
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Anyway have fun tuning and polishing it up, take some pics if you get a chance.[/QUOTE]

My thought is as long as I leave it original cleaning the bike and getting all the grime off of it is protecting it. Leaving mud, surface rust and other impurities just leads to many other potential problems that happen over time. A clean bike on the other hand will give many more years of protection and pleasure to the person looking at it.
 

Adam-NLV

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My thought is as long as I leave it original cleaning the bike and getting all the grime off of it is protecting it. Leaving mud, surface rust and other impurities just leads to many other potential problems that happen over time. A clean bike on the other hand will give many more years of protection and pleasure to the person looking at it.
Yep, totally agree with that line of thought. I suspect rust, dirt and corrosion are still gonna be eliminated. They showed one car in that category and I think the jest of it is is to have it appear exactly like it did in the year built with nice looking equipment, just not ultra polished and shiny... It's the first I've heard of this new category, haven't read up on it though.

BTW; Nice Score!
 

CTKing

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Thanks spent a little time on it already and I'm seeing a nice result. I should be getting the blue green I bought last week any day now. Hopefully that will be a diamond in the rough also.
 

69ST

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"Preservation class" has a lot of latitude, the exact application of which depends upon the machinery in question. It could mean a car that's still wearing all, or most, of its original paint, original interior but with a detailed undercarriage, some touch-up work, chrome & metalfinishing, etc...or...a pre-WW1 bike, that's 1 of 3 known to exist...100% unmolested, other than being lightly dusted with a damp cloth, right down to the faded graphics, ossified tires & leather. Generally speaking, the rarer, older and more significant the machine, the rougher it can be and still be a top-specimen in PC.

IMO, small Hondas of the CT70/Z50 era will be held to a higher standard, i.e. have to be exceptionally clean/well-preserved to be legit PC machines. With a few possible exceptions, such as a `72 K1 "Chrome special" or an `83-`90 (that is virtually undocumented) even modestly worn bikes will be little more than good raw material...to restore properly. They just aren't even close to being unobtainium rare. It is, however, a good thing in that it will tend to keep more nice originals intact, further solidifying these bikes as a marque.
 
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