Is it a buyers market or what?

CTKing

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I've noticed over the past 6 months that the prices are really starting to drop. Whether it be on EBay or CL the bikes seem to be getting cheaper and cheaper and staying listed longer. Just picked up a couple of silver tags for some great prices. Anyone else notice this in their area?Has the CT70 bubble popped?
 

hrc200x

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All the people that grew up on these are now in their 50's and 60's. Chances are if they haven't bought "the bike they had when they were a kid" or restored one to their liking by now they probably won't. If they have relived their child hood through a $5000 z50 or ct70 maybe its starting to wear off. I see three wheelers starting to take off, people are making atc70's into full suspension, using a pit bike frame, changing the rake so it looks correct, making new tabs and mounts for everything. The kids that grew up on them are possibly getting to a point in their life where they have some extra cash. From what little I follow it, 3 wheeler racing is gaining momentum again. There is also a place to convert the new 450R 4 wheelers into 3 wheelers, and yes they look awesome.

I don't know what will be considered the '73-79 ct70 headlight ear of the 2040's. Maybe a New old stock replacement screen for a iphone 5? Better stock up now.
 

Adam-NLV

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Hard to say in S. Nevada but I would of thought that they would be fetchin more in the riding season of 2016. Prices do seem to be stagnate. If the economy ever comes back, those peeps that sold low won't be happy. Who knows maybe after the election things will pick up.:crazy:
 
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CTKing

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Totally agree with HRC200x my friends and I were having the exact same discussion. It seems all the people in their 50s and 60s were snatching these things up for the sake of memory. It seems like all the late 70 and early 80 road bikes are gaining a lot of momentum in Cali going to the people in theirs 40s and 50s.
 

69ST

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The same thing has happened with collector cars and other bikes. There will always be peaks & troughs. Somehow, I doubt that Cushmans, Vespas, Lambrettas, Mustangs, Camaros, or Hondas are going to suddenly become & remain dirt cheap. IMO, you guys are leaping at conclusions based on very narrow short-term observations. This isn't the first dip on this rollercoaster and it won't be the last. And...feebay isn't the whole world.:26:
 

kirrbby

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Years ago during a price slump I asked Gary from VHM if he thought the craze was ending...unload crap before the bottom falls out... He laughed and said, "I've been doing this for X years. (25? 30?) People will always be looking for old Hondas and parts" or something to that affect. I've seen those humps and valleys, many times. Here's what ya do... Buy low-Sell high-try to know the difference. And good luck, from me to you.
 

placek59

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I haven't noticed any significant price drops in my area. There are currently at least two ads on craigslist wanting to buy ct70's and z50's.

I have also noticed 3 wheelers starting to go crazy. Especially the "Big Red" with reverse. I was at farm consignment sale a few weeks ago and watched two beat up 3 wheelers bring 750 and 875 each. They ran ok but the front suspension was seized up on one of them for sure.
 

kawahonda

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Noticed no price drops in my area. Trash CT70s are selling for 400-600 without titles. Decent ones that could use a light restoration will sell for no less than $1000-1200.

Almost picked up a CT70K0 over the weekend for $700, and it looks pretty darn good (with title). It would have required a 1.5 hour drive. It needed some things restored/fixed, but nothing that's hard to find ($200-300 worth of stuff). That's about as much of a "deal" that you're going to get around here.
 
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Mike_

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definitely died out as of late, I have a bunch of parts for sale and not moving. I keep checking Criag's List and not much for sale the past months in my area. (Bay Area, Cali)
 

kirrbby

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Well it's definitely not a guarantee, but lots of minibike fans around here. If you REALLY want to sell something...eBay is as close to guaranteed as it gets. Start it as a $1 auction, worldwide shipping, and cross your fingers.
 

RustySkills

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I think Kirby and Racerx covered the price and demand part of the conversation perfectly. I will say that I've seen more CT70's come up for sale early in 2016 in the Southwest than in the last 3 years. Since about April 1st I see less new bikes for sale and it seems like CT's are taking a little longer to sell. I think we may see a rise in interest in the enduro bikes. This is probably not new but it's new to me. It seems like anything street legal that runs is worth $1,000. My friend just bought a 1975 XL 175 up in Phoenix. They are really cool and I think more limited in production than CT's.
 

OLD CT

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Well it's definitely not a guarantee, but lots of minibike fans around here. If you REALLY want to sell something...eBay is as close to guaranteed as it gets. Start it as a $1 auction, worldwide shipping, and cross your fingers.

If you are ok with it selling for a dollar, go for it! I am not! I always get one bidder and not about to waste my time for a dollar!
I will never sell international as they always find problems and are the biggest complainers! Also I am not going to the post office to find out how much, waste of my time! Plus the shipping is outrageous! I shipped a tiny box
that weighed 1 pound and it cost 10 dollars to Cali so watch your shipping quotes.

My last sale of the rare half year only k3 bars? I said in BOLD handlebar holder is not part of the auction! Guess what? The guy emailed me and asked if I was shipping the holder separately.. No, I said, it clearly states it is NOT part of the auction! Well, I don't need the rare 100 dollar bars just the holder! O.K. send the bars back and I will send you the holder. No problem! Winning! So to make a long story short, handlebar holders sell for 100 bucks around here. No shortage of sales here... HA HA!
 
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69ST

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In a nutshell? People are sheep and even sheep have to sleep sometime but never fear, they will wake and when they do...
Yahtzee!!!

Market trends develop, over time, in long, graceful, arcs. People, on the other hand, tend to respond...predictably...like lemmings and in knee-jerk fashion. The two easiest things to evoke, in order, are fear and anger; were that not true, politics wouldn't be the moral equivalent of what dots grazing pastures. That manifests as the seemingly precipitous rises and falls in EVERY market, over time. Drawing conclusions, based on short term, narrowly-focused (i.e. samples that are too small), observations can lead to some...shall we say...inaccuracies. By the measure put forth in the early part of this thread, one could "logically" conclude that, since real estate prices collapsed circa 2008, that we're all done with housing...or that, since gasoline fell from the $5 threshold to under $1 a few short weeks ago, that it's all over for gasoline and the oil industry as well. New Groms were commanding close to $5K a coupl'a years ago but have finally dropped down to the $3K MSRP. Does that mean that they've had their run, become unwanted/obsolete and the party's over? Or, has supply has been ramped-up and met demand...eliminating the sometimes extortionate premiums the early adopters were willing to pay? For that matter, what about the impact of lower fuel prices? Suburban tank (SUV & big truck) sales have taken off recently...think that's gonna last long?

Could there possibly be any other factors in play? How about weather and the time of year? Does discretionary spending typically peak around tax deadline time? Are specialty vehicles, bikes in particular, somewhat seasonal? Is everyone equally adept at marketing and creating effective ads? What about the sometimes chilling effect of overpriced polished turds? How about simple co-inkydink?:34:

I've been around long enough to be in on the proverbial ground floor with just about any post WWII collectible, the oldest of which wouldn't have reached "antique/collectible" status until the early 1970s. At this late date, the small Honda market is clearly too well established...and represents two of the most successful bikes in history...for everyone to suddenly lose interest simultaneously. It's already convulsed between high & low...more than once. What makes anyone so sure that this is the last time. That'd break the mold. What other successful marque has suddenly died-off...Corvette, Mustang, Indian, H.D., Shelby, Vincent, Triumph...etc...etc?

Leap without really looking, at your own risk:30:
 

Mike_

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If you are ok with it selling for a dollar, go for it! I am not! I always get one bidder and not about to waste my time for a dollar!
I will never sell international as they always find problems and are the biggest complainers! Also I am not going to the post office to find out how much, waste of my time! Plus the shipping is outrageous! I shipped a tiny box
that weighed 1 pound and it cost 10 dollars to Cali so watch your shipping quotes.

Tried it as well, to much time wasted on Ebay, shipping for a motor is more than the motor in most cases, so need to sell local
 

kirrbby

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If you are ok with it selling for a dollar, go for it! I am not! I always get one bidder and not about to waste my time for a dollar!
I will never sell international as they always find problems and are the biggest complainers! Also I am not going to the post office to find out how much, waste of my time! Plus the shipping is outrageous! I shipped a tiny box
that weighed 1 pound and it cost 10 dollars to Cali so watch your shipping quotes.

My last sale of the rare half year only k3 bars? I said in BOLD handlebar holder is not part of the auction! Guess what? The guy emailed me and asked if I was shipping the holder separately.. No, I said, it clearly states it is NOT part of the auction! Well, I don't need the rare 100 dollar bars just the holder! O.K. send the bars back and I will send you the holder. No problem! Winning! So to make a long story short, handlebar holders sell for 100 bucks around here. No shortage of sales here... HA HA!

I've sold my share of $1 parts with this method. $1.25....$2.63 after 8 bids. lol I've also sold my share of $20 parts for $35. All part of the ebay experience. Shipping is always paid by the buyer...unless I make a mistake. I SHOULD be the one to pay for my own mistake, and I do. If the shipping for a motor that I want is $80 and I'm willing to pay up to $125 for that motor, I bid $45. If that motor is local to me and I can pick it up for free, I bid $125. The price of a part is bid+shipping. I bid what I'm willing to pay and figure other folks do the same. I never bitch about the price I'm charged for shipping, unless they try to raise it after I've won the auction. I base shipping quotes on USPS flat rate boxes. 1 guaranteed price, "if it fits it ships". with any luck I can ship it for less and save a few bucks.

My personal opinions on buying and selling on ebay. I don't think everyone will agree.
 

69ST

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I've sold my share of $1 parts with this method. $1.25....$2.63 after 8 bids. lol I've also sold my share of $20 parts for $35. All part of the ebay experience. Shipping is always paid by the buyer...unless I make a mistake. I SHOULD be the one to pay for my own mistake, and I do. If the shipping for a motor that I want is $80 and I'm willing to pay up to $125 for that motor, I bid $45. If that motor is local to me and I can pick it up for free, I bid $125. The price of a part is bid+shipping. I bid what I'm willing to pay and figure other folks do the same. I never bitch about the price I'm charged for shipping, unless they try to raise it after I've won the auction. I base shipping quotes on USPS flat rate boxes. 1 guaranteed price, "if it fits it ships". with any luck I can ship it for less and save a few bucks.

My personal opinions on buying and selling on ebay. I don't think everyone will agree.

I don't see anything in the above post with which to disagree. I'd never begrudge an honest seller a few bucks to cover legit expenses (a.k.a. handling), when it's a reasonable amount, especially on a low-buck item. When it comes to any auction, not just Ebay, it's up to you to understand what you're getting into. If you don't like it, or something seems shady...vote with your feet. That's exactly why I stopped selling on the `bay...didn't agree with their policy revisions.

Just a heads-up...ran into something for the first time, recently. Bid on an item with zero bids, only to be outbid which is fine....if it weren't for the fact that it showed the higher bid being placed 5 hours prior. WTF? There aren't that many time zones in the lower 48. Let's hope this is a one-off, not an omen.
 
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