Thanks guys, When it was all welded up there is just enough room for the air cleaners. If someone else does one of these you might try adding concaves to the frame where the carbs sit so you could run the orignal intakes, then have more room for a higher exhaust. But your going to loose room for the tank and electrics....So we have a trade off, Or a single carb kicked off to the right of the bike and exhaust on the left. but I wanted to run twin carbs. even thought about kicking the exhaust up after the air filters but think it would start looking like a after market piece. The other option would be down swept CB like pipes, but I've been trying to keep the CT theme. Thanks to everone for the ideas, I'm working on headlite mounts now, and this week will yank the eng and see what's going on in there, no compresion in one hole, looks like someone has had the head off, maybe out of time, or bent valve or worse never know what suprise's lurk from within...lol